Cable Car for London

[Piemaster]

Humber Bridge - 5th longest single span suspension bridge and the longest you can cycle over.

And I have several times

 

[dellzeqq]

Whatever happened to a bridge going from somewhere near Thamesmead? There's an almost completely deserted dual carriage way along there and past Crossness STW to Erith which i was told when I lived there was for a bridge that was to be built over the river near there.

cancelled

 

[subaqua]

Definitely can cycle across the Humber Bridge. The whole FNRttC did last September

A cable car in North Greenwich would be useful, as there are precious few ways of getting across the river in the East leading to massive queues for cars in the Blackwall Tunnel and on the Ferry.

Whatever happened to a bridge going from somewhere near Thamesmead? There's an almost completely deserted dual carriage way along there and past Crossness STW to Erith which i was told when I lived there was for a bridge that was to be built over the river near there.

thats the old bridge scheme which was abandoned a few years ago. not sure of the reasons why.

the stubs are still in place north of the riverjust past Gallions reach retail park.

if it was a cycle/pedestrian only bridge the existing roads could cope , butr if it was for vehicles then you would end up with gridlock almostr all day . anybody who ventures close to Gallions on a saturday afternoon in November knows what i mean.

I remember the consultation documents coming out a long time ago

 

[StuartG]

Sorry, I can't get my head round this.
They are planning to CHARGE passengers and cyclists for crossing the Thames?
But cars go free through the tunnel?

Sum Mushtake Shirley?

 

[subaqua]

Sorry, I can't get my head round this.
They are planning to CHARGE passengers and cyclists for crossing the Thames?
But cars go free through the tunnel?

Sum Mushtake Shirley?

cars get charged at Dartford

Cycles are free at Rotherhithe as are Pedestrians and cars

cars are free at Blackwall

all the bridges in London are free to all.


the Tube isn't free and neither are the buses.

what is your problem ??

 

[Aperitif]

It's a neat idea but hardly a new one. Practically every weekend I seem to hear that the Jubilee Line has been "suspended between Stratford and North Greenwich" - I keep meaning to go and have a look, it must require a truly enormous amount of cable to keep it all up.

Sorry Dan, late to this for a read, but; 10/10

Actually, there must be 'entrepreneurs' looking for business. The set up costs aren't that expensive. why are there not more proposals forthcoming? It doesn't have to be govt. funded. Think of the centimetre of snow that paralyses London for two days - it will be like Zermatt-on-Thames!

 

[darth vadar]

1: It's going to be private funded (Del can probably confirm)
2: It's not a stupid idea at all due to the lack of decent river crossing in that particular part of London.

And just how many crossing points does the Thames actually have or need ?

Where I live, there are just three crossing points on a river which is 38 miles long, and any hold up or closure on any one of those involves something like a 20 or 30 miles detour.

Hardly fair I would suggest.

 

[ianrauk]

And just how many crossing points does the Thames actually have or need ?

Where I live, there are just three crossing points on a river which is 38 miles long, and any hold up or closure on any one of those involves something like a 20 or 30 miles detour.

Hardly fair I would suggest.

Seeing as I have no idea where you live I can't really comment on your situation.
However seeing as London is one of the largest and busiest Cities in the world, the placement of the cable car is spot on. Both the Excel and the Dome are 2 of the most popular places that are visited in London. The one thing the area lacks is a decent river crossing.

 

[marinyork]

cars are free at Blackwall

If you regard this as the nearest comparison, I don't think it's that unreasonable point of view in a way.

 

[subaqua]

If you regard this as the nearest comparison, I don't think it's that unreasonable point of view in a way.

nice selective quoting there.

no its not the nearest comparison. the others in the list show the comparisons quite nicely.

Dartford crossing is free to cycles AFAIAA and they stick the bike in the back of the escort vehicle.


some people just go looking for negatives in everything.

 

[ianrauk]

nice selective quoting there.

no its not the nearest comparison. the others in the list show the comparisons quite nicely.

Dartford crossing is free to cycles AFAIAA and they stick the bike in the back of the escort vehicle.


some people just go looking for negatives in everything.

Correct

 

[marinyork]

nice selective quoting there.

no its not the nearest comparison. the others in the list show the comparisons quite nicely.

Dartford crossing is free to cycles AFAIAA and they stick the bike in the back of the escort vehicle.

some people just go looking for negatives in everything.

Stop being intellectually dishonest. No, just applying a teensy weensy bit of brainpower would allow you to see why someone might regard what I said as as so. The Blackwall is very close to the proposed site or the new cable car.

If you regard London as a whole you can do a comparison of crossings but most of them even out. I'm more bothered about whether a cycle is allowed to cross or not especially the further east you go.

 

[subaqua]

Stop being intellectually dishonest. No, just applying a teensy weensy bit of brainpower would allow you to see why someone might regard what I said as as so. The Blackwall is very close to the proposed site or the new cable car.

If you regard London as a whole you can do a comparison of crossings but most of them even out. I'm more bothered about whether a cycle is allowed to cross or not especially the further east you go.

soon you will need a ladder to get over yourself. I suggest you do it soonest.

Most of the crossings mentioned are very very close and as i have clarified , the dartford one is free to cycles but not cars.

although it won't stop people being negative, just like they were when the London Eye was proposed . for a temporary structure with a 5 year plan its not doing too bad 11 years on , and another 25years added to the lease.

opne could argue if the woolwich ferry goes because of it then 1 free crossing for bikes has gone, but there are far more free routes for cycles than paid routes for cars. its a public transport system, so will have a charge to be used.
I use the tube on my bike sometimes , especially if working late the other side of London. It costs me to use that, but my bike goes free. One would imagine if Tfl are running the cable car then the same rules will apply.

I am taking my bike on the WCML , i have paid to be transpoerted but my bike goes free. Its not cyclists that are being charged but passengers.

 

[dellzeqq]

Dartford crossing is free to cycles AFAIAA and they stick the bike in the back of the escort vehicle.

eventually! (He says with some feeling - the FNRttC no longer goes that way....)

I don't see how this cable car can be a bad thing. For people using Oyster as a day, week or month travelcard it's be free. I just want it to happen now!

 

[marinyork]

soon you will need a ladder to get over yourself. I suggest you do it soonest.

Most of the crossings mentioned are very very close and as i have clarified , the dartford one is free to cycles but not cars.

It depends what you mean by close. I wouldn't call any of them 'very, very close'. Funnily enough on some level someone must agree with me which is why the thing is being built. Again that's another one you don't seem to have really thought much about. The other point being that the other facilities have their issues.

although it won't stop people being negative, just like they were when the London Eye was proposed . for a temporary structure with a 5 year plan its not doing too bad 11 years on , and another 25years added to the lease.

Who is being negative? I think fossyant and darth vader's post have been the only negative ones on this thread. I just don't like the laziness of your posts not bothering to see other people's points of view.

opne could argue if the woolwich ferry goes because of it then 1 free crossing for bikes has gone, but there are far more free routes for cycles than paid routes for cars. its a public transport system, so will have a charge to be used.
I use the tube on my bike sometimes , especially if working late the other side of London. It costs me to use that, but my bike goes free. One would imagine if Tfl are running the cable car then the same rules will apply.

It's not just number of bridges or cost but where they are located. Cycling and walking are activities you want to encourage, you want as many crossings as possible, it is not odd in the slightest for people to get excited/upset about new/removed crossings further east. Depending on how much it costs I don't think a cost is the end of the world, it's just you with your intolerance and lack of thought went off on one and didn't bother to ask me what my views were. I don't like people like you who don't bother to put very much thought into things and not consider other people's points of view, that's why I posted on what someone else said, not that I particularly agree with it.