Calling any Wagon Drivers.

[AlanW]

[QUOTE 3002690, member: 9609"]
Seriously though will I have to do all 5 courses before september ? and will I have to do one on vaccum tankers ? I drive a logger [/QUOTE]

Yes, you will have to have completed all five modules by September otherwise you will no longer be legal to drive! The modules should ideally be structured around your everyday business activities, thats usually the case when your employer is funding it.

 

[paul04]

I completed my CPC in December, my employer paid for mine, so quite lucky.
I can say one thing, its very, very boring. They could do a module in say 2 hours, maybe 3, but to drag it out for 7 hours, and you are bored to tears by the end of it.
I mean how can you talk about analogue tachograph charts for 3 hours and make it interesting.
A couple of the courses were ok, that's because we had a good guy doing the course,

Try and join in, it makes the day go a little faster, but near the end of the day DON'T ask any questions, otherwise you might end up saying longer

 

[Angry Blonde]

You could do the same day five times.... imagine thirty five hours of paper tacos haha

 

[smokeysmoo]

You could do the same day five times.... imagine thirty five hours of paper tacos haha

I'd heard that, and that to me totally illustrates how ridiculous the whole thing is

 

[Angry Blonde]

It's even better that foreign drivers can come and drive here without needing it...... that's how much of a money making scheme it is

 

[Dark46]

The company I worked for at the time paid for me to do it, as it's I their interest to to keep their drivers.
The silly thing about it is you can do any combination of modules. You can do 5 of the same one !!!! It makes no difference as long as you've put the hours in. I would recommend doing the tachometer course just to keep yourself upto date. One of the tutors we had had no personality and read off the board . He might as well not turned up and just told us to read a book! Pleb

I just find someof it wrong as if you drive a rigid or 7.5 tonne slot if the vehicle health check only refers to artics. I thought the first aid one was pointless too.

At least it's every five years and not every 2 ! But it's just another card you HAVE. To carry come Sept ! These days you would have thought they could put it all on one card! Once you've done it the cards arrives within 4 days.

Well that's my 2 pence worth

 

[MontyVeda]

Do they do a module about how to overtake cyclists safely?

 

[Leedsbusdriver]

Do they do a module about how to overtake cyclists safely?

We did.Showed us how to pass cyclists safely and what primary position is and why cyclists use it.Didn't teach me anything i didn't already know TBH.
Actually the same could be said of all the 35hrs.

 

[MontyVeda]

We did.Showed us how to pass cyclists safely and what primary position is and why cyclists use it
...

that's good to hear... it may be of some use to non-cycling truck drivers though.

 

[BrianEvesham]

I paid £65 a module locally. If you are driving competently on the road today you will learn next to nothing, sorry.

We even had one Eastern European driver who barely spoke any English on one of the modules, doesn't seem to matter.

I did mine last year to keep my PSV licence valid, ironic then that I did truck related modules to get my bus/coach licence back!

 

[smokeysmoo]

[QUOTE 3003264, member: 9609"]II take it not having a dcpc will not stop me on the maintenance side of things, for instance this week I am collecting a trailer, sorting the brakes out and then taking it in for its plating (mot for trucks) I believe if I don't do a cpc I can still do stuff like this ?[/QUOTE]
That's correct. You only need it if you drive for hire or reward. Our fitter at work doesn't technically need it for the same reason.

 

[AlanW]

That's correct. You only need it if you drive for hire or reward. Our fitter at work doesn't technically need it for the same reason.

I would double check that statement to be honest, as I don't think that you are correct? We don't operate for hire or reward, nor do we utilize tachographs and we have had to do the DCPC in order to comply and so have all the fitters that hold a LGV licence?

 

[XRHYSX]

My work are paying for our cpc as well as being paid to attend , I've only been with this company 2 years, we're doing our last module this year, I had to play catch up so did mod 1 and mod 2 twice, (this is why I don't agree with the whole thing) we're registerd for in house training so were all work colleagues, we do get a bit out of it as its tailored to our company and vehicles but mostly its bollocks you should already know, our fitters have to do the cpc as although they don't deliver goods, they are driving for hire/reward, only if you drive for your own personal use ie moving house

 

[XRHYSX]

[QUOTE 3004642, member: 9609"]Like all laws there are grey areas. For instance, without a cpc I would certainly be able to take the trailer in for its pre booked test on Thursday, but would I be allowed to go and collect the trailer and bring it over to the work shop this afternoon so as I can prepare it for its test and then take the tractor unit back to the yard? Clearly I would need a CPC for next week as it may be difficult to convince anyone I'm just out getting a few logs for my fire.[/QUOTE]
Only if your not being paid for it! from what I've been told

 

[smokeysmoo]

Well last week I booked 35 hours of driver CPC training with one of the largest training provider of it's type in the North West.

I was in a rush when I booked it so I paid my money and agreed they could send the course information on to me. Sure enough within two days an envelope landed at out house.

I was looking it over to check the details when I noticed that all 5 of the 7 hour 'modules' where for tachograph training!

So I rang them up to query this, "Oh that's right, we only do tacho on Saturday's, did we not explain that?" No you feckin' didn't!!!

I know it would still count for my 35 hours due to the stupid nature of CPC implementation, but I don't want to do it that way for fear of making my brain dribble out of my ears through boredom.

Anyhow, upshot is I've got a full refund and am going seeing another place in the next day or so. I've spoken with them today and they seem to offer what I need.

For something that should be so straightforward this is becoming a right royal pain in the @rse! Hopefully the mists will start to clear when I've seen this other place