Cameras + YouTube + Google - using the power

[lukesdad]

Indeed, can't argue with either of those points. Well apart from the fact that you called the other cyclist a guy, when clearly it is a girl. come on!

Aye, could have been further back but I think at the point you are referring to the traffic is rather slow and i'm not directly behind it. Not exactly dangerous.

Maybe, maybe not, but the motorcyclist was certainly aware of your being there hence the constant shoulder checking.

 

[400bhp]

No. 2 incident above really irks me when that kind of thing happens. It's simple impatience.

A couple of points:

i) Father of Luke - a little unfair to criticise Gaz on his cycling in that scenario. He is close, but isn't being agressive and he will be the one who comes off worse as a result of his choice to ride where he did.

ii) I remember when incident number 1 was posted here. I seem to recall there was a lot of people outting the cyclist primarilarly at fault. I'm not convinced, but it does go to show that even with a camera, things aren't clear cut. Furthermore, could the reaction of the cyclists on the driver further in the clip have contributed to the driver being a d1ck in vid 2. One could draw the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that the cyclists ganged up on the driver and come to a conclusion that cyclists are an agressive bunch, hence the driver's low opinion of cyclists?

iii) Gaz-if it is unlikely that a driver will be caught on 2 videos, what is the point of this youtube channel?

 

[Origamist]

[QUOTE 1667849, member: 3143"]Never use hand signals that are not in and accepted by the HC. It confuses people.[/quote]

What about these hand signals

 

[lukesdad]

No. 2 incident above really irks me when that kind of thing happens. It's simple impatience.

A couple of points:

i) Father of Luke - a little unfair to criticise Gaz on his cycling in that scenario. He is close, but isn't being agressive and he will be the one who comes off worse as a result of his choice to ride where he did.

ii) I remember when incident number 1 was posted here. I seem to recall there was a lot of people outting the cyclist primarilarly at fault. I'm not convinced, but it does go to show that even with a camera, things aren't clear cut. Furthermore, could the reaction of the cyclists on the driver further in the clip have contributed to the driver being a d1ck in vid 2. One could draw the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that the cyclists ganged up on the driver and come to a conclusion that cyclists are an agressive bunch, hence the driver's low opinion of cyclists?

iii) Gaz-if it is unlikely that a driver will be caught on 2 videos, what is the point of this youtube channel?

400Bhp Im never unfair to gaz, I think he knows that. He puts his head up to be shot at,and good on him for that. I dont agree with him on a lot of things, but he believes in what he does and goes about it in the right way IMO. he s not slow in accepting observations and comments, its just a shame some of the other road warriors on here don t take a leaf out of his book. By the way Im always fair

 

[gaz]

I think that we can all strive to improve our own cycling and I am more than willing to accept that I make mistakes.
Luckily I can learn from them and improve

 

[Norm]

ii) I remember when incident number 1 was posted here. I seem to recall there was a lot of people outting the cyclist primarilarly at fault. I'm not convinced, but it does go to show that even with a camera, things aren't clear cut. Furthermore, could the reaction of the cyclists on the driver further in the clip have contributed to the driver being a d1ck in vid 2. One could draw the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that the cyclists ganged up on the driver and come to a conclusion that cyclists are an agressive bunch, hence the driver's low opinion of cyclists?

But... but... but...

If that is correct, that would mean that you believe it is possible that someone gets pissed off with cyclist A and takes it out on cyclist B, just because he / she is a cyclist. So that second video could be taken to be proof of the concerns that some people have about HCW's.

 

[gaz]

its just a shame some of the other road warriors on here

Hold on, are you calling me a road warrior? on the

 

[lukesdad]

Diverting the attention of another road user can be a recipe for disaster !

 

[lukesdad]

Hold on, are you calling me a road warrior? on the

In the nicest possible way

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

I apologise if this has already been asked, but has there ever been a case of one driver appearing in multiple videos?

See my post number 189 (3rd paragraph) and Mikey's reply number 190.

When I ran my program against YouTube, there were some, but very few and far between.

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

I thought the question was multiple offences being filmed ?

Some of the results that were spat out by my program:

MX58 DWL - MX58DWL:
MX58DWL - First Bus Cuts Me Up (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-11-21T21:16:56.000Z)
37380 - MX58DWL - First Bus: One Bad Apple (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-08-30T21:33:52.000Z)
37380 - MX58DWL - First Bus Really Good Pass (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-08-30T19:11:19.000Z)

KX59 YNY - KX59YNY:
KX59YNY - Must Get Past The Cyclist (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-11-21T20:59:08.000Z)
KX59YNY - Squeezes Through At Speed (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-09-13T08:42:30.000Z)

RT03 BEX - RT03BEX:
RT03BEX - Close Pass (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-02-22T09:33:20.000Z)
RT03BEX - Close Pass At A Roundabout (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-08-23T07:57:11.000Z)

R69 LPF - R69LPF:
R69LPF - Close pass and potentially aggressive driver (gaz545, 2010-11-16T21:33:35.000Z)
R69LPF - Tailgating (gaz545, 2011-03-27T17:02:10.000Z)

It hasn't found any repeats of the same car with different cyclists. (Though I haven't run it against many channels.)

I know that some were on the same commute, including the bus that did a bad pass and a good one.

 

[lukesdad]

But... but... but...

If that is correct, that would mean that you believe it is possible that someone gets pissed off with cyclist A and takes it out on cyclist B, just because he / she is a cyclist. So that second video could be taken to be proof of the concerns that some people have about HCW's.

Please, language, Norm ! We are dealing with sensitive souls here.

 

[lukesdad]

Some of the results that were spat out by my program:

MX58 DWL - MX58DWL:
MX58DWL - First Bus Cuts Me Up (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-11-21T21:16:56.000Z)
37380 - MX58DWL - First Bus: One Bad Apple (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-08-30T21:33:52.000Z)
37380 - MX58DWL - First Bus Really Good Pass (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-08-30T19:11:19.000Z)

KX59 YNY - KX59YNY:
KX59YNY - Must Get Past The Cyclist (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-11-21T20:59:08.000Z)
KX59YNY - Squeezes Through At Speed (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-09-13T08:42:30.000Z)

RT03 BEX - RT03BEX:
RT03BEX - Close Pass (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-02-22T09:33:20.000Z)
RT03BEX - Close Pass At A Roundabout (MrGrumpycyclist, 2011-08-23T07:57:11.000Z)

R69 LPF - R69LPF:
R69LPF - Close pass and potentially aggressive driver (gaz545, 2010-11-16T21:33:35.000Z)
R69LPF - Tailgating (gaz545, 2011-03-27T17:02:10.000Z)

Well, we will just have to take your word on the examples being offences won t we.

 

[400bhp]

But... but... but...

If that is correct, that would mean that you believe it is possible that someone gets pissed off with cyclist A and takes it out on cyclist B, just because he / she is a cyclist. So that second video could be taken to be proof of the concerns that some people have about HCW's.

Absolutely.

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

Well, we will just have to take your word on the examples being offences won t we.

No, you can easily check if you want to. (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=RT03BEX)

Oh, and they were offences because I found them bl**dy offensive.