Yeah, for wet weather braking with around 3.5~4mm of tread left the stopping distances increase dramatically. Personally I'd like to see the legal tread limit raised to 2.5 or 3mm but have a requirement that a car has at least 3.5mm tread left at the MoT.Night Train said:I tend to be a sedate but high mileage driver. I have pushed my tyres to their limit and so know where that limit is. I have also found that the limit drops off very suddenly as the tyre gets near the wear bars so I change them when they are close.
tyred said:in reality, 99.9% of drivers will never push their car hard enough for any of it to matter.
Totally agree. Once you get down to about 2mm the tread does very little in the wet. The current limit is a joke.Personally I'd like to see the legal tread limit raised to 2.5 or 3mm but have a requirement that a car has at least 3.5mm tread left at the MoT.
GrasB said:Personally I'd like to see the legal tread limit raised to 2.5 or 3mm but have a requirement that a car has at least 3.5mm tread left at the MoT.
magnatom said:Blimey, this started a fair old conversation.
tyred said:I agree with everything Mr Pig says but in reality, 99.9% of drivers will never push their car hard enough for any of it to matter. A worryingly large percentage of drivers have no idea how to control a car as it approaches or goes over the limits anyway.
My preferred characteristic of a car tyre is good stopping ability in the wet but even that isn't really a problem if you drive with a little anticipation. It is worthwhile to find a quiet, straight road and check the stopping distance in the wet imo.
magnatom said:Blimey, this started a fair old conversation.
Went for Barums (Bravuris 2). I'll take the C4 Grand out for a spin at the local circuit to let you know how they handle at the extremes....
gbb said:You beat me to it. The info Mr Pig is giving is no doubt true and good, but 99.9% of us just want a reasonably good set of tyres at a reasonable price. All tyres will compromise somewhere. I always found P6000's wear well and i never had problems on my SRI with them.
No idea how to control a car in an emergency..i also think 99.9% of driver probably know the theory (steer into a skid etc)...but the reality is if you find yourself correcting that much, you're doing something wrong or are a bloody unlucky driver.
40 years of driving, i think i've lost control twice. Its not much to hone ones skills in an emergency is it
I love these discussions
Coco said:So in 8 years of this car and its predecessor we've only lost traction once.
40 years of driving, i think i've lost control twice. Its not much to hone ones skills in an emergency is it
Piemaster said:do seem to be quieter than the mixture that was on before (despite Auto Express rating them as noisy)