Carbon wheelset - advice please, particularly lightbicycle/other Chinese carbon

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Chislenko

Veteran
I would save your money and have a holiday, which will last as long as the feel good factor of new carbon wheels.
 

RoubaixCube

~Tribanese~
Location
London, UK
With Hunt, you're getting an unknown Chinese OEM build with a brand sticker. Would advise against them on grounds of quality, crosswind instability, as well as performance. They do have good customer support though - give credit where it's due.

Ive been told multiple times that HUNT wheels are just rebranded Farsports wheelsets
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
Our local wheelbuilder Spokesman Wheels (Mike Pollard et al) has an excellent reputation and one of our group had the pecuniary enthusiasm to get a wheelset made up (Carbonal rims, Novatec hubs), with which she is happy.
http://www.spokesmanwheels.co.uk/technical-blurb/
Spec roughly this (from their eebay shop but see %) : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163166798041?hash=item25fd7fc0d9:g:4cMAAOSwKARbWF4-

No need on CycleChat to descend into 'hoops' cycle mag vernacular.
Reposting: "laterally stiff yet vertically compliant"
Try avoiding to laugh at/with this article : bikesnob-2008-dream-bike-shootout,
"this bike climbs like a monkey with a set of crampons, descends like a monkey in a set of crampons being dropped from a helicopter, handles corners like a prostitute, and accelerates like a particle in a particle accelerator that itself is just a tiny particle in a giant particle accelerator."
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/carbon.243931/page-2

I spoke at length over e-mail with Mark, and he built me a wonderfully light pair of wheels for iirc, £1050 delivered, they are a work of art, mega light, sub 1200g I believe (Which was my main aim) and really suit the bike.

However, the main reason I am posting, is that I have a almost entirely stock Specialized Allez Elite I think it is, with mostly 105 11spd at my parents tiny house in Spain.
It's running stock wheels (probably 2000g worth), and as I am spoiled here, and the roads are SO lovely there, I have a hankering to get some nicer, lighter carbon wheels, maybe 50mm deep, and would take the opportunity to fit some tpu tubes and lighter tyres at the same time.
The other bonus is I could get them delivered straight to my parents, so no hassle with trying to fly with them.

It's been probably 15 years since I ordered anything substantial from China, and am now completely out of touch with it.

I spotted a couple of recommendation further up the thread, but they are 2-3 years old, so just wondered if anyone had ordered wheels more recently, and had any personal recommendations, and or ones to avoid?

Thanks
 

Animo

Senior Member
I spoke at length over e-mail with Mark, and he built me a wonderfully light pair of wheels for iirc, £1050 delivered, they are a work of art, mega light, sub 1200g I believe (Which was my main aim) and really suit the bike.

However, the main reason I am posting, is that I have a almost entirely stock Specialized Allez Elite I think it is, with mostly 105 11spd at my parents tiny house in Spain.
It's running stock wheels (probably 2000g worth), and as I am spoiled here, and the roads are SO lovely there, I have a hankering to get some nicer, lighter carbon wheels, maybe 50mm deep, and would take the opportunity to fit some tpu tubes and lighter tyres at the same time.
The other bonus is I could get them delivered straight to my parents, so no hassle with trying to fly with them.

It's been probably 15 years since I ordered anything substantial from China, and am now completely out of touch with it.

I spotted a couple of recommendation further up the thread, but they are 2-3 years old, so just wondered if anyone had ordered wheels more recently, and had any personal recommendations, and or ones to avoid?

Thanks

More established options - Light Bicycle, Farsports, Winspace, Elite.
Cheaper and rather more niche - XMCS, Zen, Serenade.

Most of the above have long threads dedicated to them on Weigh Weenies. Some like Zen have very poor websites and you basically have to WhatsApp them direct to say what you want.

I recently took a punt on a pair from Serenade, they were sub £500 delivered to the UK for circa 1200g, 50mm deep and carbon spokes.
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
More established options - Light Bicycle, Farsports, Winspace, Elite.
Cheaper and rather more niche - XMCS, Zen, Serenade.

Most of the above have long threads dedicated to them on Weigh Weenies. Some like Zen have very poor websites and you basically have to WhatsApp them direct to say what you want.

I recently took a punt on a pair from Serenade, they were sub £500 delivered to the UK for circa 1200g, 50mm deep and carbon spokes.

Awesome, thankyou very much - that's more than a starter for 10 :-)
It's not ever going to get heavy usage, so I can't justify spending big bucks, so was thinking something around the £300-£400 mark seems (to me) justifiable, though I suspect not to my partner.

<£500 for 50mm and that weigh is incredible, I'd be happy with something around the 15-1600g mark.
Mine is rim brakes as well, not sure if that makes them cheaper or not really.

The top 4 you mentioned I have heard of them and recall them from years gone by, so good to know they are still there and established.
Of the other 3, Zen are the only one I have heard of and I did contact them initially, before going with Spokesman, which for my needs was the right choice.
 

joeegg

Active Member
Location
Barnard Castle
I have a pair of Hunt 38mm rim brake carbon wheels.Bought them last year and not a lot miles on them but so far they've been ok.
Very easy to set up tubeless and they are easily the smoothest riding wheelset i have,and that includes DT Swiss RR21,Campag Zondas and Fulcrum 3 alloy sets.
I think the depth is just right for my area,rolling roads and some steep stuff.Performance overall is better than my alloy sets.
Obviously with a rim brake the rim is narrower than a disc one so slightly restrictive for tyre width.Mine have Schwalbe One's at 28 which seems ideal.
The only thing i would change are the pads that come with the wheelset.I think the performance could be better.
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
The Hunt's are around £800 though I think, and I'd need to ship them over myself, or add them on as extra luggage.
No way I can justify that cost on a set of wheels that is only going to get used for a few weeks each year, and the other bonus of the Chinese angle is that I can get them delivered straight to my parents, potentially for little in the way of fees hopefully.
The bike was 'only' £1050 new.
 

Animo

Senior Member
Buying for rim brakes adds a few considerations. You need to consider what width you can fit. Also, for any serious descending I'd personally want the reassurance of some decent spec rims such as the Light Bicycle grooved graphene ones or the Farsports equivalent.

Also beware that not all TPU tubes are rated for carbon rim brake wheels. I stick to light Conti butyl tubes on my rim braked bike that has carbon wheels.
 

joeegg

Active Member
Location
Barnard Castle
For your budget Superteam are probably the "best" for the money.
I'm always sceptical of youtube reviewers who offer discount codes on the stuff they review.A bad review means no one would buy the product making the discount pointless.A good review however may lead to a purchase with the discount code telling the manufacturer which reviewer has managed to "influence" potential buyers.
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
Buying for rim brakes adds a few considerations. You need to consider what width you can fit. Also, for any serious descending I'd personally want the reassurance of some decent spec rims such as the Light Bicycle grooved graphene ones or the Farsports equivalent.

Also beware that not all TPU tubes are rated for carbon rim brake wheels. I stick to light Conti butyl tubes on my rim braked bike that has carbon wheels.
A very valid point, and one I did in fact consider and last year when I took a bike to Italy with exalith rims, chickened out and went for butyl tubes instead. Last thing I want is a blowout when travelling at a decent speed downhill.
I don't think the width thing is a major issue for me, I'm relatively lightish, and rode on 23s for ages, then eeked it up to 25s, and the widest I ride, gravel bike excluded, is 28mm.
I suspect the Allez would only go to 28s anyway.

Not heard of those specific wheels, but sounds like they might be similar to the Mavic Exalith ones, are they textured and require specific pads do you know?
I have two pairs of wheels with the Exalith coverings, no issues with either, and I have to say the stopping power, at least in the dry, is phenomenal - clearly heat build up is potentially higher though.

I'll do some research and see what I can find.
It would be lovely to have a bike I want to ride there with disc brakes, but there's no way I can justify that currently, or for the foreseeable.
For your budget Superteam are probably the "best" for the money.
I'm always sceptical of youtube reviewers who offer discount codes on the stuff they review.A bad review means no one would buy the product making the discount pointless.A good review however may lead to a purchase with the discount code telling the manufacturer which reviewer has managed to "influence" potential buyers.
A very brief scan on Aliexpress I think it was, turned up some Superteams - they did seem to fall into my price bracket, and were even lighter than I had imagined.
Good point on influencer reviews - yet to watch any though I must be honest.
 
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