Carlton hello!

[djwnomad]

Hi all, I've just joined.

I was hoping someone could help me identify an old Carlton model that I inherited from my grandfather who passed away this year aged 98. He used to do a lot of cycling but the bike that I inherited is not in the best condition. It is painted a strange peachy colour that I plan to strip at some point and it has a mismatch of parts and the forks are horribly bent. On the plus side it has a nice Milremo stem, nice Shimano shifters and Stronglight cranks.

I plan to resurrect it as an indoor trainer but was hoping to get some more info on the frame model and year. There was a 531 decal on it, and there are some numbers underneath the bottom bracket - G4851. The rear dropouts have Brev Campagnolo written on them.

Many thanks
David

 

[midlife]

Welcome , I've got a crib for the frame number dates somewhere but I guess Spokesmann on here will beat me to it lol

Chrome forks and lugs remind me of a Kermesse

Any more pics of the whole frame

 

[djwnomad]

Thanks! I've attached a few more pics.

 

[Darius_Jedburgh]

Excuse my ignorance, but the photos don't seem to show horribly bent forks????

 

[biggs682]

Excuse my ignorance, but the photos don't seem to show horribly bent forks????

I was just thinking the same unless you are use to looking at straight forks

 

[djwnomad]

The left near side is damaged (slight crease) and sits about an inch forward of the right and a bit higher. When I mount the bike in the rollers the frame leans to one side and doesn't track straight. I've taken quite a lot of frame measurements and I think the frame is straight.

 

[Darius_Jedburgh]

Also....that horrible peachy colour is probably original. Collectors might well drool over it.

 

[Darius_Jedburgh]

Think OP may have a better bike than he realises.

 

[biggs682]

Also....that horrible peachy colour is probably original. Collectors might well drool over it.

I like the colour

 

[DCLane]

Date-wise I'd suggest 1972 - https://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleighcarltonreg.html possibly a Carlton Equipe or Kermesse but I can't match the colour.

Have a look here https://www.ebykr.com/carlton-cycles-foundation-for-greatness/ until our resident Carlton expert @Spokesmann turns up.

 

[Spokesmann]

G prefix would put this as 1959... I take it no frame no on the LHS rear drop out?

 

[Darius_Jedburgh]

I like the colour

I think I do. Unfortunately the colour varies from pic to pic. I'm about to have a frame resprayed and this intrigues me. I'll have a play with white balance in Photoshop/Ligjtroom to see if I can get a consistent colour.

 

[oldtel]

Hi, a quote from the old Carlton website might help : -
' Some models, the Professional and Giro d'Italia models have been identified, had a letter and numbers. I am aware of bikes with D, F and G. My initial view is that D was 1968-69, E was 1969-70, F was 1970-71 and G was 1971-72, when the numbers changed to the new scheme. '

Thanks
Terry

 

[djwnomad]

Sorry because I'm new every comment I make goes to moderation so I can't reply on line with the conversion.

It's definitely peach not orange. No frame number on the rear drop outs as can be seen in the new pics attached

 

[midlife]

Appears to have bottle cage bosses on the downtube, now baffled as to what it left the factory as, also a lamp boss on the forks.