Carrying kids.

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PrettyboyTim

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Be careful if choosing a rear child seat - at four he may be getting a bit big for them. Check that he'll fit in and that he doesn't exceed the weight limit. I had to stop carrying my son when he was around four because his shoes wouldn't fit into the seat stirrups any more. He was also getting close to the weight limit and I now use a child trailer instead. Having said that, I was just talking to a friend of mine on Thursday who has a five year old who he transports around on a crossbar-mounted seat, and he says it's no trouble.
 
We passed a guy with a tagalong today. He was riding with his wife about 5 metres behind on a really busy road. Even from a distance as we approached in the car from behind, we could see the guy weaving about, clearly pedalling too hard, the centre of gravity of the bike all over the place. He overtook his wife's bike at speed then pulled in so sharply that the wheel of the tagalong missed his wife's front wheel by inches.

Both adults fully kitted out in nice gear. Bikes looking quite smart and well maintained as far as could be seen at a passing glance. Yet clearly not a clue of how close to disaster they came. And the worst of it is - they probably got home thinking what accomplished riders they are and what a great ride they'd had as well as looking forward to the next one. ;)
 

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PrettyboyTim said:
Be careful if choosing a rear child seat - at four he may be getting a bit big for them. Check that he'll fit in and that he doesn't exceed the weight limit. I had to stop carrying my son when he was around four because his shoes wouldn't fit into the seat stirrups any more. He was also getting close to the weight limit and I now use a child trailer instead. Having said that, I was just talking to a friend of mine on Thursday who has a five year old who he transports around on a crossbar-mounted seat, and he says it's no trouble.


The Front mounted option sounds better as he will probably be in a Size 9 or 9.5 by September
 
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PrettyboyTim said:
Be careful if choosing a rear child seat - at four he may be getting a bit big for them.

It shouldn't be that difficult to find a seat that will carry a child much older than four.

Bobike's Junior rear seat is good to 32kg.

GMG's 911 is good to 35kg.
 

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Like that guy on the video in one of the posts above ??

So what's the weight like though carrying it on the back ?
With child and seat it must add a few stone onto the ride ?
 

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Bought a Hamax Siesta (well 2)
The eldest fits and seems happy - He is I reckon 15kg.

It's a fair old weight though on the back. I will need to buy a stand (Decathlon later - Any ideas ?) and will have to lower the seat and not going to use my SPD pedals.

As this is my only bike it's geared for commuting and hope that it's going to be ok with the seat on the back.

Are there any tips on toppling over ?! It's one reason I am going to lower the seat when he is in it.
 

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Oh and what about Helmets for the youngest ?
She is 9 months although she will be 10 months by the time wifes bike arrives.
 

Bigtwin

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Been round this buoy at great expense several times (not least to theft).

Now have 3 and 6 yrs boys.

Phase one was trailer. Worked well but tedious on the road, and even more off it, as it's a two seater and quite wide.

2. was a cross-bar seat. Full one with headrest that goes on an additional bar between headset and seatpost. Fine so long as you have a very upright position, or their head is in your chin/chest whole time. Better for them though, as they see more and you can talk to them.

3. Was seat on back. Fine to about 4 yrs.

4. Tag-a-long. I modified the seat from 2. above to replace the saddle, and took the pedals off. Probably the best on-off road riding solution by some way.

5. Tag-a-long with normal seat, as per how it comes.

6. Trail Gator. Total rubbish. Badly made pain in the ass that bent and ceased to function quickly. In essence, the method of fitting the bar to their bike at the headset it pants, and relies on little bits of bent metal. No where near strong enough, and two of them just tore. Shame as sound enough idea, but badly designed and constructed.

7. Tag-a-Long, with baby seat on the back. Works fine, but you have to be confident and have decent handling skills. Less stable than on it's own, but you can take 2 for a lot less than a double tag-a-long.

8. Tandem with foot rests on rear seat for short legs, and seat/tag-a-long on back. Works fine, but cumbersome due to length, and bloody heavy to peddle up hills.

Oldest could ride from 3 anyway, and patience for not being on own like bike limited.

In summary. Small - best is on-bike seat. Larger - tag-a-long. 1+ double tag-a-long would be best, but costly.
 

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Currently the eldest @ 3 and a half can't/won't pedal and is generally lazy when it comes to his balance bike too.

He is very independent and I can see him just jumping off anything he is not strapped into cause he has seen something or wants to go somewhere.
 

wafflycat

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Wafflycat Minor was transported for many a mile in a rear rack-mounted child seat on my trusty hybrid. When WCMinor was very wee, it was the normal way for he & I to get about. Never had a problem with balance. Never had a problem with bike falling over putting WC Minor in or out of bike seat. It seems to have caused no long-term damage as he's now about to enter his final year at university.
 

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wafflycat said:
Wafflycat Minor was transported for many a mile in a rear rack-mounted child seat on my trusty hybrid. When WCMinor was very wee, it was the normal way for he & I to get about. Never had a problem with balance. Never had a problem with bike falling over putting WC Minor in or out of bike seat. It seems to have caused no long-term damage as he's now about to enter his final year at university.


Yeah I suppose it's just the same as someone who is 15 stone riding a hybrid.
 

PrettyboyTim

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Brighton
Downward said:
It's a fair old weight though on the back. I will need to buy a stand (Decathlon later - Any ideas ?)

I would suggest getting a twin leg stand as it keeps the bike completely upright as you put the child in the seat. On level ground the stand is quite capable of keeping the bike upright with the child on board. However, it's not stable enough to keep upright if they decide to start throwing their weight around (well, depending on the weight of the child), so you always need to be physically beside the bike in case the child manages to topple it. As far as I remember though my son only managed to start the bike toppling once and of course I was on hand to stop it.

The one I got for my bike (and I love it so much I've kept it on, even though my son is now too big to go on the back of my bike) is the Pletscher twin leg prop stand. I did try the Hebie one but I found that my heels would clip it when it was retracted so I had to return it. Mind you, I have size 12 feet.

One of the really nice things about having a twin leg stand is that you can use it as a budget workstand - the bike is balanced so that it rests on the front wheel and the stand when there's nothing on the back, so I can adjust my gears / brake etc anywhere there's a bit of flat ground. If I need to do something to the rear wheel, I just clip my pannier on to the back.
 
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a friend of mine has what I call 'the train'

its a hybrid with child seat, tag along and trailer all connected in that order!

its actually quite good fun riding it!
 
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