caused (or did I) a road accident....

[GrasB]

so please explain how a stationary car causes an accident with a cyclist or ped that doesn't involve another vehicle. The reason I exclude another vehicle is because if it does involve another vehicle then someone's not been paying proper attention.

 

[tightwad]

so please explain how a stationary car causes an accident with a cyclist or ped that doesn't involve another vehicle. The reason I exclude another vehicle is because if it does involve another vehicle then someone's not been paying proper attention.

No, work it out for yourself ,do some research or look at my very first post.

 

[BentMikey]

Stopping on the carriageway is wrong and should be a mandatory 3 points. It causes accidents.

That gets my nomination as stupidest post of the day.

 

[GrasB]

No, work it out for yourself ,do some research or look at my very first post.

You're the one that's made the statement now why don't you back it up?

 

[tightwad]

That gets my nomination as stupidest post of the day.

Stupid can not be used as a comparative adjective but thanks for your asinine addition to this discussion.

GrasB - I fear you may not have had much experience of riding a bike on British roads for you to understand the dangers of stopping on the carriageway, as described by the OP, to allow cars, peds, bikes to pull out of side roads.

 

[al78]

And yes 2 wheels are good 4 wheels bad. It's my prejudice and I am happy with it.

What about three wheels?

 

[Noodley]

And yes 2 wheels are good 4 wheels bad. It's my prejudice and I am happy with it.

I'd agree, it's why I drive so quickly round corners....no point having all 4 wheels on the road surface.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

And yes 2 wheels are good 4 wheels bad. It's my prejudice and I am happy with it.

So what have you got against me pulling my trailer??

 

[BentMikey]

So tightwad, are you going to explain to us your ignorance of the highway code? I wonder if you'll be up to admitting how wrong your view posted earlier is, and up to making the effort to realise why.

 

[GrasB]

So tightwad, are you going to explain to us your ignorance of the highway code? I wonder if you'll be up to admitting how wrong your view posted earlier is, and up to making the effort to realise why.

I was more thinking of basic hazard perception & the fundamentals of where risk comes from. I'm still trying to work out how a stationary car causes an accident if everyone is driving at an appropriate speed, with good separation & paying proper attention to the traffic & road conditions around them. Every scenario I can think of requires someone to not do proper observation before committing to a manoeuvre or be travelling beyond the capabilities of their vehicle to stop in the seen distance.

 

[Theseus]

Technically, parking your car on the side of the road is stopping in the carriageway. Just think of all those penalty points tightwad can get handed out. Do it a few times and it's a load of cash for the system and the boxes will be scrapped.

 

[tightwad]

meh

 

[Dan B]

No, work it out for yourself ,do some research or look at my very first post.

I read it. You undertook a stationary vehicle at a junction and got hit by an oncoming vehicle which had not seen you and was turning across your path

Wouldn't it be slightly more sane to apply the three points to the driver of the vehicle that failed to give way to you than to the one that stopped to let him out? He is, after all, the one that did the damage.

 

[2Loose]

Technically, parking your car on the side of the road is stopping in the carriageway. Just think of all those penalty points tightwad can get handed out. Do it a few times and it's a load of cash for the system and the boxes will be scrapped.

Or for zebra crossings or red lights? Stopping isn't the problem, tailgaiting without looking ahead is, certainly in this case.

 

[GrasB]

tightwad, firstly I've been ridning 5'000 to 10'000 miles a year for around 15 years now, I think my experience of the UK roads is rather good. I, like coruskate, read your first post & would say that there was a collective failure between you & the mini-buss driver to show proper observation & risk anticipation skills. You were filtering on the blind side of a car & the mini-bus driver wasn't expecting a filtering cyclist on the nearside of the car thus didn't see you. You failed to filter with appropriate caution considering there was a (near) stationary vehicle in front of you. The result of 2 people not paying proper attention to the road around them was an accident, completely avoidable if one or other of the parties was paying full attention to the on-road scenario. In short you were partially, but certainly not totally, to blame for the incident.

I've seen this happen before, I've even had another cyclist squeeze between me & a van to carry on down the nearside only to watch them go over the bonnet of a car, which I'd already worked out was there. Please note I could not see the car turning right, but due the behaviour of the van driver knew the car was trying to turn right!