I did not say all art is rubbish, read my other posts above. But I also do not think that art is a language. I do agree that people liking art depends on how it is perceived, but when something is worth an extortionate amount of money just because the artist is known and the Tate decide to exhibit it, it gets my goat.ANYTHING can be art, its just how its interpreted. Art is a language that most people never learn, so we end up with threads like this full of 'annoyed' people saying how its all crap.
I was at Tate Modern the other day there, and whilst I didn't necessarily understand some of the pieces, I realise that that is my fault, not anyone elses, so I would never say that anything that I didn't 'get' was rubbish.
Regarding the pretentiousness, well, yes, but there is a difference between the concept of a piece and the nobbers who waffle on about it and make it obscenely overpriced - An artwork containing someone's bed, ok, fair enough, that in itself isn't the problem, its the people, but unfortunately, non art people don't seem able to make that distinction, so the entire thing is classed as 'rubbish' or 'pretentious'.
The way I always look at these things is that its a justipoxition as regards to it being the complete opposite of some pretty little picture that people 'think' is art. This great mythical distinction between art and the mundane.
For example, I have seen pictures of rotting fruit, etc - Why does the pretty (and dull as ditch water) little bowl of fruit get called art when the opposite (and visually more interesting) doesn't??
Like I say, anything can be art, its just how it is perceived.
...... That said, my bed much be worth a freakin' fortune, I wonder if I can sell it to someone with far too much money!!
I wonder what tennis dress lady looked like then & now.
That is a powerful artwork... it has everything you'd want from a piece of art- a place in time and space, a story to tell, placement.... the works. Be expensive to move from gallery to gallery though.
Part of modern art, thinking outside the box, the gallery that comes to you or Galleries4U.Com
I'm a keen photographer but If i lived to be a thousand i'll never understand why this is worth $4.3m , it has even been photoshopped to remove unwanted detail!
Andreas Gursky, Rhein II -
<shouting very loudly> +1I understand how it's all perceived and how the viewer interprets it etc BUT what I can not get my head around is why a pile of bricks or an unmade bed can fetch the sort of money they do just from one 'artist' and not another. If I were to tip the contents of my wheelie bin into a pile and talk philosophical about it and just how the discarded sugar puff box represented a repressed childhood because my mother thought they had too much sugar would it be worth 100's of thousands but I bet if some sort of modern artist did then all the luvvies would be falling over themselves to outbid each other.
I'm a keen photographer but If i lived to be a thousand i'll never understand why this is worth $4.3m , it has even been photoshopped to remove unwanted detail!
Andreas Gursky, Rhein II -
Ah but if you've seen the original, then having the poster captures that memory and it still works. Not seeing it makes it more difficult, but you can still like it as a picture..........throws away poster of Van Gogh's sunflowers which was blue-tacked to the sitting room wall
