presta
Legendary Member
I meant suitable for me, not the pedal.There's loads of such shoes available - it's pretty much the default for MTB shoes to have a recessed clear.
I've done lots of big climbs with rat traps and toe clips. The reason I've never tried clipless is because I never found any shoes that were suitable (for me).Try riding up a 8km climb in flats then try it in clipless and see. Oh and don't forget the hairpin descents.
I was never fit enough to climb out of the saddle, let alone pull on the pedals.can lift on upstroke as opposed to only pressing on pedals

anyhow its marginal and i dont really care