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Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
No wonder we have an obesity problem in this country, no where else in Europe do you get a pint of coffee. I always order a Cortado because it’s a sensible sized cup of coffee. Not a bucket full.

Get a grip, it's not even a full pint of milk due to the steam. It's like 3/4 pint.
It's not many more calories than a can of pop. Less if semi skimmed is used.
 

Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
Happy for you. You don't drink large lattes either. Your point is?

The popularity of a large coffee is hardly the cause of the obesity crisis.

Doesn’t help though, some of the sugary rubbish Costa sell, they should be ashamed of themselves.
 

Webbo2

Über Member
Is keeping the pipes/lines clean as important in coffee making...or even a thing? What pipes require cleaning in a coffee machine other than the steam outlet which froths the milk?

I must admit to never having cleaned any pipes in my coffee machines at home over the past 20 years even though I must have made over 10000 cups in that time.

My sage machine tells me when it needs cleaning once in a while which I think is to stop it furring up like a kettle. If you have ever had a cup of tea from a kettle full of lime you would appreciate that you wouldn’t want that happening in your coffee machine.
At our previous house the coffee machine sat on the kitchen worktop underneath the cupboards. Which had lights underneath, this seemed to create a situation in the water tank similar to a tropic fish tank. I.e. it started developing green fungus.😱
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Is keeping the pipes/lines clean as important in coffee making...or even a thing? What pipes require cleaning in a coffee machine other than the steam outlet which froths the milk?
Ex barista here.
Yes, the coffee machine heads, gaskets and filters must be cleaned every day at end of service.
Methods vary according to the machine: chemicals must be back flashed into the filters and the water dispensing pipes, but never into the milk wand.
The system must then be back flashed with clean water a few times, accessories also rinsed.
On multi dispensing machines his is called "taking a head off".
Next day, before service, a couple of coffee shots from each head must be wasted in case of lingering aftertaste from the chemical.

I must admit to never having cleaned any pipes in my coffee machines at home over the past 20 years even though I must have made over 10000 cups in that time.
Depends what kind of machine you have got, some home appliances do not need their internals cleaned, especially if you have soft water.
 
Ex barista here.
Yes, the coffee machine heads, gaskets and filters must be cleaned every day at end of service.
Methods vary according to the machine: chemicals must be back flashed into the filters and the water dispensing pipes, but never into the milk wand.
The system must then be back flashed with clean water a few times, accessories also rinsed.
On multi dispensing machines his is called "taking a head off".
Next day, before service, a couple of coffee shots from each head must be wasted in case of lingering aftertaste from the chemical.


Depends what kind of machine you have got, some home appliances do not need their internals cleaned, especially if you have soft water.

Thanks for the info. My two coffee machines over the years (or three if you count the one I bought a couple of monthsa ago) have only been around the £100 mark so nothing special. I must have been lucky, and I know we are a soft water area and never have trouble with kettle elements furring up.
 
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simongt

Guru
Location
Norwich
When I was in the hotel industry and 'posh' coffee was the pour & serve machines, the coffee we used was 32p. ( 1987 prices ) a pack and we reckoned ten cups yield from said pack.
So we were charging £1.50 per serving for what was costing us 32p.
Go figure - ! :laugh:
 

katiewlx

Well-Known Member
Is keeping the pipes/lines clean as important in coffee making...or even a thing? What pipes require cleaning in a coffee machine other than the steam outlet which froths the milk?

I must admit to never having cleaned any pipes in my coffee machines at home over the past 20 years even though I must have made over 10000 cups in that time.

theyll be prone to the same wild yeast/bacteria infections as pipes/lines in a pub, albeit exposed to boiling water alot probably help keeps them more in check, but Id say for any commercial operation yes you should absolutely clean everything you can to keep it going well daily.

For home, well thats a choice really, mine flashes a light at me when to do it and I pop a tablet in the water press a button and it does its "cleaning" routine, and thats it, I dont spend hours of my time cleaning it.
 

katiewlx

Well-Known Member
It's not just a coffee in Costa... it's a coffee flavoured drink with the syrup/chocolate/cinnamon/foam cream/marshmallow that people slap on it to "enhance" its flavour.

if people choose to add those things, thats entirely their choice imo, I cant stand oat milk but people seem to drink it, and like it.

and whats wrong with drinka pinta milka day ;)
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I've been spending some time in the UK lately and Costa Coffee is everywhere. I don't understand how or why. Their coffee is utterly abysmal.
Costa has been owned by Coca-Cola since 2019, who have plenty of prior experience in profitting from putting abysmal drinks everywhere. Previously owned since 1995 by Whitbread pubs/hotels, a less successful but still very profitable spreader of poor drinks (with the brewing mostly sold to InBev in 2001). Quality not needed, you see?
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
No wonder we have an obesity problem in this country, no where else in Europe do you get a pint of coffee. I always order a Cortado because it’s a sensible sized cup of coffee. Not a bucket full.
Are you sure? Costa is now in 38 countries, many European, and I'm sure will generally sell massive coffees there too, if there's no law stopping them.

Tim Hortons is (was?) also in Spain (as well as the UK and its native Canada) and sells even sweeter massive coffees, as well as a more Spanish-sized menu.
 
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