Commuting modes and times ?

[Deleted member 1258]

Mines 6.5 miles and done in my work clothes, bikes parked in the back of the lounge, strap my work bag on the back of the bike, walk out of the door get on my bike and cycle to work, clock in walk to the warehouse, park the bike take the bag of the bike, put on my Hi Vis pick up my pen marker knife and forklift key then go for a coffee.

 

[Moodyman]

This is all too complicated. No-one has added in the fact that you can cycle the long way home just for fun, extending commute time considerably !

Or that some of us have a 5-7 minute stretching period at either end of the commute.

 

[fossyant]

Or that some of us have a 5-7 minute stretching period at either end of the commute.

Nightmare !

Takes me longer by bike than car, but I feel better by the end.

 

[lb81]

Car:

Collect keys and wallet: 2 mins
Drive 18.9 miles: 25 - 30 mins
Drive to at least level 10 of multi storey: 5 mins
Lift down and walk to office: 5 mins

Total = 42 mins

Bike:

Get 'biked' up: 10 mins
Cycle 19.3 miles: 1.05hr - 1.15hr
Lift to 7th floor, park bike get changed: 5 mins

Total = 1hr 30mins

It makes so much more sense to drive that i have just sold my car to fund a new bike as i wasnt using it

 

[Andrew_Culture]

Mines 6.5 miles and done in my work clothes, bikes parked in the back of the lounge, strap my work bag on the back of the bike, walk out of the door get on my bike and cycle to work, clock in walk to the warehouse, park the bike take the bag of the bike, put on my Hi Vis pick up my pen marker knife and forklift key then go for a coffee.

I love that the hi-vis goes on only once you get to work

No sarcasm by the way. Yesterday I bought a black reflective top.

 

[jonny jeez]

but what of the cost...

Car
Ownership= £1500 a year depreciation over 364 days = £41 per day
Fuel appx =£8 a day
Insurance appx= £1.20 a day
Road fund= £.60 a day
wear and tear= £1.37 a day
Total £52.17 a day to drive to work
accepted that a degree of that cost is spread out and enjoyed across general ownership (weekends etc) so remove say 25%
Grand total= £39.12 a day

Motorbike
Ownership= £500 a year depreciation over 364 days = £1.37
Fuel appx =£1.00
Insurance appx= £.82
Road fund= £.041 a day
wear and tear= £.68 a day
Total £3.91 a day to ride the loud bike to work. I never use the motorbike for anything else than commuting ( I would use the big weekend bike for that) so
Grand Total £3.91
literally a tenth the cost of driving.
Like the push-bike, the motorbike attracts a potential ongoing cost for gear and stuff...but I'll disregard this as essentially you just need basic stuff that will last a few years...perhaps you could add £.54 a day for a 5 year write of off gear costing a f=grand

Train
Possibly 4k a year so £10 a day in season tickets
Grand total £10 a day
No ownership or additional benefit

Bike
Ownership= £100 a year depreciation over 364 days = £0.27
Fuel appx =£0
Insurance appx= £.041
Road fund= £0
wear and tear= £.41
total £.72
Total £.72
literally a tenth the cost of driving.
accepted that a degree of that cost is spread out and enjoyed across general ownership (weekends etc) so remove say 25
Grand Total £.54. that's 54pence a day!
Same attraction of cost for gear as the motorbike.


how do you calculate the cost benefit of increased health and self satisfaction/enjoyment.

 

[Sandra6]

Getting dressed takes me the same time regardless, I cycle to work in my work clothes.
Walking - 25mins (20 in the rain if I hurry)
Cycling - 7-10 mins, I can make it take as long as 15 if I don't pedal very often.
Driving - approx 12 months to actually learn to drive, then 5-10 mins depending on traffic.
I'll stick to my bike.

 

[400bhp]

but what of the cost...

Car
Ownership= £1500 a year depreciation over 364 days = £41 per day
Fuel appx =£8 a day
Insurance appx= £1.20 a day
Road fund= £.60 a day
wear and tear= £1.37 a day
Total £52.17 a day to drive to work
accepted that a degree of that cost is spread out and enjoyed across general ownership (weekends etc) so remove say 25%
Grand total= £39.12 a day

Motorbike
Ownership= £500 a year depreciation over 364 days = £1.37
Fuel appx =£1.00
Insurance appx= £.82
Road fund= £.041 a day
wear and tear= £.68 a day
Total £3.91 a day to ride the loud bike to work. I never use the motorbike for anything else than commuting ( I would use the big weekend bike for that) so
Grand Total £3.91
literally a tenth the cost of driving.
Like the push-bike, the motorbike attracts a potential ongoing cost for gear and stuff...but I'll disregard this as essentially you just need basic stuff that will last a few years...perhaps you could add £.54 a day for a 5 year write of off gear costing a f=grand

Train
Possibly 4k a year so £10 a day in season tickets
Grand total £10 a day
No ownership or additional benefit

Bike
Ownership= £100 a year depreciation over 364 days = £0.27
Fuel appx =£0
Insurance appx= £.041
Road fund= £0
wear and tear= £.41
total £.72
Total £.72
literally a tenth the cost of driving.
accepted that a degree of that cost is spread out and enjoyed across general ownership (weekends etc) so remove say 25
Grand Total £.54. that's 54pence a day!
Same attraction of cost for gear as the motorbike.


how do you calculate the cost benefit of increased health and self satisfaction/enjoyment.

I think your figures need looking at again

 

[jefmcg]

I can't be bothered checking the figures above, but I heard this a while ago:

When people walked everywhere, average speed was 4mph. Then they got horses etc went up to blah mph. Now we have cars, a city commute in traffic is back down to 4mph if you include the time you spend working to pay for your car.

 

[defy-one]

My average speed according to my trip computer is 21mph across a whole week of driving in & out of London.
My average speed on the bike is around 14mph with pannier and laptop/tools etc
Car takes motorways into London.Bike takes an A road (Uxbridge Road)
I can certainly live with going 7 miles slower an hour. 7 miles will take me an extra 25 mins in commuter mode

 

[jonny jeez]

I think your figures need looking at again

oops, yep the car is a fair bit cheaper......damn that decimal place

 

[Linford]

but what of the cost...

Car
Ownership= £1500 a year depreciation over 364 days = £41 per day
Fuel appx =£8 a day
Insurance appx= £1.20 a day
Road fund= £.60 a day
wear and tear= £1.37 a day
Total £52.17 a day to drive to work
accepted that a degree of that cost is spread out and enjoyed across general ownership (weekends etc) so remove say 25%
Grand total= £39.12 a day

Motorbike
Ownership= £500 a year depreciation over 364 days = £1.37
Fuel appx =£1.00
Insurance appx= £.82
Road fund= £.041 a day
wear and tear= £.68 a day
Total £3.91 a day to ride the loud bike to work. I never use the motorbike for anything else than commuting ( I would use the big weekend bike for that) so
Grand Total £3.91
literally a tenth the cost of driving.
Like the push-bike, the motorbike attracts a potential ongoing cost for gear and stuff...but I'll disregard this as essentially you just need basic stuff that will last a few years...perhaps you could add £.54 a day for a 5 year write of off gear costing a f=grand

Train
Possibly 4k a year so £10 a day in season tickets
Grand total £10 a day
No ownership or additional benefit

Bike
Ownership= £100 a year depreciation over 364 days = £0.27
Fuel appx =£0
Insurance appx= £.041
Road fund= £0
wear and tear= £.41
total £.72
Total £.72
literally a tenth the cost of driving.
accepted that a degree of that cost is spread out and enjoyed across general ownership (weekends etc) so remove say 25
Grand Total £.54. that's 54pence a day!
Same attraction of cost for gear as the motorbike.


how do you calculate the cost benefit of increased health and self satisfaction/enjoyment.

Motorbike
Ownership= £200 a year depreciation over 364 days = £0.54
Fuel appx =£1.58
Insurance appx= £0.28
Road fund= £0.21 a day
wear and tear= £0.82 a day (clothing)
Total £3.43 a day to ride the bike to work. It is a fire breathing monster on the gas and fuel or any other economy has never been a consideration in purchase or running costs..
Grand Total £3.43
Grin factor = beyond measure


Bike
Ownership= £135 a year depreciation over 364 days = £0.37
Fuel appx =£1.00 (extra food consumed)
Insurance appx= £0.27
Road fund= £0
wear and tear= £0.27 (clothing, tyres, chain lube, etc)
total £1.91
Total £1.91
general health benefits have to be weighted up against wear and tear of the rider in my circumstance

My numbers are a bit different to yours.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

I love that the hi-vis goes on only once you get to work

No sarcasm by the way. Yesterday I bought a black reflective top.

Nobodies allowed in the warehouse without one, if I left it off I'd get a bollocking, and get a lot of piss taking of my work mates.

 

[Lancj1]

How does your commute compare using different modes ?

I work out of town, and my commute is about 5 miles each way..

Outward commute
Cycling
5 mins - Putting on cycling gear

5 mins - Changing for work
33 mins - total

Motorcycle
4 mins - Putting on motorcycle gear

4 mins - Changing for work
25 mins - total

Car
5 mins - Getting Dressed

0 mins - Changing for work
21 mins - total

Having just done the exercise, I am actually quite surprised at the outcome.

How do your commuting times and modes compare when doing an end to end calc ?

Do you just get a wash at weekends regardless of whether you need to ?

 

[Linford]

Do you just get a wash at weekends regardless of whether you need to ?

I didn't include that as that and shaving is done regardless of mode of travel...I also take the clothes off to shower or bathe

No showering facilities in work. Was wet wiping when cycle commuting.