Confrontation with a motorist: I did nothing wrong this time

[benb]

By commenting you are [seen as being] being judgmental - not a particularly nice character trait in itself.

Learning to know when to keep ones mouthshut is something he needs to learn.

And can you explain why we shouldn't be judgemental on other's poor driving?

 

[benb]

watch the video again

I did. I would submit that if there was another bicycle to Matt's right, the driver may not have been able to see it properly, and the cutting of the corner could have been dangerous. I don't think the driver could have been sure that there was no-one there, but he decided to cut the corner anyway.

 

[400bhp]

And can you explain why we shouldn't be judgemental on other's poor driving?

No

It's obvious.

 

[Linford]

I did. I would submit that if there was another bicycle to Matt's right, the driver may not have been able to see it properly, and the cutting of the corner could have been dangerous. I don't think the driver could have been sure that there was no-one there, but he decided to cut the corner anyway.

You are making the assumption that the driver did not have a clear line of sight. From the video, it appears to me that he did.

 

[gambatte]

Maybe we all ought to be more judgemental of others driving.
"Oi, you're doing 46 in a 40"?
"Excuse me, do you know you've got a smudge on your windscreen?"

 

[benb]

You are making the assumption that the driver did not have a clearline of sight. Fron the video, it appears to me that he did.

Neither of us know for sure, I am only giving my opinion on what I can see, and my experience (bearing in mind many divers seem quite incapable of seeing us at the best of times!)

I'm not saying he definitely couldn't tell there was no-one there, but I think he probably couldn't be 100% sure. But I might be wrong.

 

[2wd]

I obviously don't know the man but I disagree .

Remember Panter

These are opinions not facts and I was expressing an opinion,like yourself and contributing to the discussion

 

[LosingFocus]

I did. I would submit that if there was another bicycle to Matt's right, the driver may not have been able to see it properly, and the cutting of the corner could have been dangerous. I don't think the driver could have been sure that there was no-one there, but he decided to cut the corner anyway.

Indeed.
The driver cut the corner to get down the road before the silver Ford Galaxy coming the other way got there, so there was no chance in hell of him looking down the road he was turning in to as he was concentrating on beating the on-coming Ford. Had a car, bike or cycle been approaching that junction with a view to turn right they would have "met" him.

 

[Hip Priest]

I had to take a bloke to task this morning. His tyre pressures were sub-optimal and he'd put fairy liquid in his screen resevoir instead of the manufacturers recommended solution.

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

It will be a sad day when I can't talk to myself whilst cycling for fear of upsetting people. I comment on things I see on my commute all the time and Matthew should be able to as well without fear of being assaulted. His comment was more to himself than the driver, who I'm surprised even heard it. It would be different if he was talking to the drivers directly, but in this case it was nothing of the sort.

 

[Linford]

Indeed.
The driver cut the corner to get down the road before the silver Ford Galaxy coming the other way got there, so there was no chance in hell of him looking down the road he was turning in to as he was concentrating on beating the on-coming Ford. Had a car, bike or cycle been approaching that junction with a view to turn right they would have "met" him.

It is possible to look at the traffic coming from two different directions, and make a judgement call on that. He was no spring chicken, and would have used his experience to judge whether he could make the gap without causing significant risk to others.

The risk is that you are transposiing the limitations in your judgmental and riding skills into his situation. You may have considered it too dangerous as you couldn't process the info and act on it, but there is nothing to say that others couldn't.

The fact that the only thing which stopped him was the sarcasm from the OP is an indicator that he had a bit of spare capacity in his ability to act on the info as it presented..........

I think the term I'm looking for is 'experience'

 

[Andrew_P]

I would love a honest answer to this question aimed directly at Matthew.

Did you feel the need to comment on driving and or get upset so much BEFORE you started reading Cycle forums or watching YT commuting videos?

 

[LosingFocus]

It is possible to look at the traffic coming from two different directions, and make a judgement call on that. He was no spring chicken, and would have used his experience to judge whether he could make the gap without causing significant risk to others.


The risk is that you are transposiing the limitations in your judgmental and riding skills into his situation. You may have considered it too dangerous as you couldn't process the info and act on it, but there is nothet into say that others couldn't.

the fact that the only thing which stopped him was the sarcasm from the OP is an indicator that he ha a bit of spare capacity in his ability to act on the info as it presented..........

I think the term I'm looking for is 'experience'

I really cant add any more of a reply to this than:

 

[gambatte]

Before I started reading things on here and watching YT vids, I used to ride in the gutter and the door zone.....

 

[Linford]

I really cant add any more of a reply to this than:

I'm glad you accept yours. The roads are undoubtedly safer for that