Coronavirus outbreak

[Mr Celine]

How is he more responsible for 127k deaths?

Undermining the first lockdown by not sacking Cummings for his blatant breach of it.

 

[matticus]

Undermining the first lockdown by not sacking Cummings for his blatant breach of it.

How would that have saved 127k lives?

 

[matticus]

It's about Boris cancelling a photoshoot of him having jollies in a pub garden in the wake of Philip's death, which might appear somewhat distasteful. Yet in the wake of over a hundred thousand Corvid Deaths, a picture of Boris enjoying a pint would have been spiffing, had Philip not died.

OK, so what could he have done to satisfy you:
Hold a memorial service every time there was a Co(r)vid death?
Or perhaps just look sad 24x7?

Or are you just saying that it's Bad Form to commemorate any non-Covid death?

 

[mjr]

OK, so what could he have done to satisfy you:
Hold a memorial service every time there was a Co(r)vid death?
Or perhaps just look sad 24x7?

Or are you just saying that it's Bad Form to commemorate any non-Covid death?

Don't be surprised if no-one answers the above when you don't answer the questions in https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/w...l-mourning’-actually-mean.274019/post-6378573

 

[MontyVeda]

OK, so what could he have done to satisfy you:
Hold a memorial service every time there was a Co(r)vid death?
Or perhaps just look sad 24x7?

Or are you just saying that it's Bad Form to commemorate any non-Covid death?

I was simply trying to explain something that you'd obviously missed... and it appears you've missed it again.

 

[matticus]

I was simply trying to explain something that you'd obviously missed... and it appears you've missed it again.

Yes, I'm sure that's the problem - I'm just missing it, silly me. It couldn't possibly be that you're taking an absurd viewpoint on affairs. I'm glad we've sorted that!

 

[mjr]

UK Government gets caught trying to download NHS app users' location check-in history to its servers, as Google and Apple app stores block the update: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ck-nhs-covid-app-update-over-privacy-breaches

Remember, the independent Contact Diary (com.apozas.contactdiary) app can now scan UK check-in codes and won't ever upload to gov.uk itself — although you do still have to leave a phone number with the venue, but that can be a burner.

 

[MontyVeda]

Yes, I'm sure that's the problem - I'm just missing it, silly me. It couldn't possibly be that you're taking an absurd viewpoint on affairs. I'm glad we've sorted that!

I was trying to explain the POV you were querying... which wasn't actually mine. Silly you indeed.

 

[matticus]

I was trying to explain the POV you were querying... which wasn't actually mine. Silly you indeed.

There you go - it just took 3 little words. Perhaps worth including key information in future comments? You could save us a lot of back-n-forth!

Then again, the number of anti-Boris posts you have made before this, well, it does cast a certain light ...

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

UK Government gets caught trying to download NHS app users' location check-in history to its servers, as Google and Apple app stores block the update: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ck-nhs-covid-app-update-over-privacy-breaches

Remember, the independent Contact Diary (com.apozas.contactdiary) app can now scan UK check-in codes and won't ever upload to gov.uk itself — although you do still have to leave a phone number with the venue, but that can be a burner.

I've never managed to think of the app as NHS. It's always looked to me like the label ''NHS'' is just borrowed branding.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

With diverting this thread any further... the eat out to help out scheme was one of many reckless decisions Boris has made.

But obviously not responsible for a spike in deaths or infections. Do you agree that is correct or not?

 

[mjr]

But obviously not responsible for a spike in deaths or infections. Do you agree that is correct or not?

Some University of Warwick's researchers didn't agree that was obvious. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-coronavirus-rishi-sunak-covid-b1446586.html

 

[Eric Olthwaite]

The University of Warwick didn't agree that was obvious. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-coronavirus-rishi-sunak-covid-b1446586.html

The University of Warwick did not have an opinion on the matter. One academic there, not a scientist, but an economist with a long-standing opposition to the Conservative government that pre-dates Covid, speculates that it might have had an impact.

 

[mjr]

The University of Warwick did not have an opinion on the matter. One academic there, not a scientist, but an economist with a long-standing opposition to the Conservative government that pre-dates Covid, speculates that it might have had an impact.

I've edited to correct the attribution, after copying the Indie earlier.

Nevertheless, no matter what evidence-free aspersions Boris fans want to cast on that author, it was far from "obviously not responsible".

https://fullfact.org/news/did-eat-out-help-out-cause-covid-spread/ calls it "uncertain" at the moment.

 

[MontyVeda]

But obviously not responsible for a spike in deaths or infections. Do you agree that is correct or not?

I think encouraging the public via a £10 bribe to get them to eat-in to help-out was a fool hardy idea... but that's what happens when Boris follows the science.

Any thoughts on the other other points I raised regarding Boris' decisions?