Coronavirus outbreak

[Ming the Merciless]

I walked to shop today and no queue outside in rain. Walked straight in. Last week in the sun I had to join a queue of 20 mins to get in! Rain puts off these born again exercisers as well.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Facemasks are now compulsory in shops and on public transport here so I got Beautiful Daughter one in her favourite colour:

I didn't know there was that much pink in the entire world...

Also, that window needs cleaning...

 

[Ming the Merciless]

What you mean they run out of jobs on the side !

Nope they have a choice of going bust or starting up again and doing some work.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Facemasks are now compulsory in shops and on public transport here so I got Beautiful Daughter one in her favourite colour:


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I didn't know there was that much pink in the entire world...

Also, that window needs cleaning...

I have lots of buffs should the need arise.

 

[kingrollo]

Which shops? Ones that were banned from opening or ones that decided to close for a bit even though they didn’t have to under the rules (eg B&Q, Greggs)

Doesn't really matter - shops that were shut a couple of weeks back are now open.

 

[kingrollo]

I hadn't realised that and wondered why there's a jump in the figures today.



This is a really tricky one. For people's mental health they need some interaction, otherwise we'll have a psychological and/or health crisis on our hands, if we haven't already. Staying at home, especially for elderly people could lead to a vicious cycle of self re-enforcing depression, to say nothing of issues for people with alzheimers or dementia.

But as you say, going out just makes the current situation worse.

From the point of view of the virus and public health, the answer is obvious, but from mental health it's much more difficult.

Mental health has been neglected for years (and I speak from considerable experience) - all of sudden it's an emergency.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Mental health has been neglected for years (and I speak from considerable experience) - all of sudden it's an emergency.

I suspect it will be neglected some more whatever happens, but yes, you're right.

 

[Handlebar Moustache]

Been watching the PMs speech just now - it’s all quite hopeful with the R confirmed as being below 1 nationwide so I do wonder if lockdown is soon to be at least partially lifted.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Doesn't really matter - shops that were shut a couple of weeks back are now open.

Of course it matters if claims are being made lockdown is being ignored by these business, when perhaps it isn’t. If they are entitled to be open they are not ignoring it are they?

 

[Salty seadog]

Well tonight's no. 10 briefing where they are now taking questions from the public which they claim to have not seen prior to being asked, Kate from Liverpool was invited to ask her question but they had no connection to her.

Boris without missing a beat saying

'what Kate was going to ask was yadda yadda yadda'.

How did he know that, he must be psychic.

Or someone's telling porkies.

 

[Adam4868]

Johnson what absolute bollox ! Did he actually just say we've exceeded the tradgedy we've seen in other parts of the world ? Delusional !

 

[tom73]

I hadn't realised that and wondered why there's a jump in the figures today.



This is a really tricky one. For people's mental health they need some interaction, otherwise we'll have a psychological and/or health crisis on our hands, if we haven't already. Staying at home, especially for elderly people could lead to a vicious cycle of self re-enforcing depression, to say nothing of issues for people with alzheimers or dementia.

But as you say, going out just makes the current situation worse.

From the point of view of the virus and public health, the answer is obvious, but from mental health it's much more difficult.

Yes it's a real difficult one to balance a lot has gone into making sure people have food. But not as much a national effort into keeping the mental health going. Some good stuff at a local level and some national stuff has been coming out too. But often it's via use of tech which for many is not in reach. Cams Will also be taking a beating due to all this too not much coming out for that. A lot more needs doing for sure at all levels. Most of the examples i've been hearing are more down to they don't see the point and are going out just because as apposed to taking a walk 1st thing or in evening in a way that's safe just to keep the mind well.

 

[tom73]

Johnson what absolute bollox ! Did he actually just say we've exceeded the tradgedy we've seen in other parts of the world ? Delusional !

That was more to do with referring to ICU not being over whelmed which due to a lot of hard work. From the NHS and most of use playing by the rules has been achieved. The real test is yet to come with the opening up of lock down and once surgery starts up again.
The effect on the NHS will last much longer than most other areas even long after a vaccine is found.
That's not taking away from the fact that everything else is a total mess mind you.

 

[kingrollo]

Of course it matters if claims are being made lockdown is being ignored by these business, when perhaps it isn’t. If they are entitled to be open they are not ignoring it are they?

I meant in terms of number of shops opened. That figure has gone up.

 

[kingrollo]

That was more to do with referring to ICU not being over whelmed which due to a lot of hard work. From the NHS and most of use playing by the rules has been achieved. The real test is yet to come with the opening up of lock down and once surgery starts up again.
The effect on the NHS will last much longer than most other areas even long after a vaccine is found.
That's not taking away from the fact that everything else is a total mess mind you.

TBF the hospital I work at - never ran out of ICU beds. Although it did get very close one weekend.