Covid vaccine.

[roubaixtuesday]

how many of the 43K have died as a result of being given the vaccine?

Separately, this shows a real misunderstanding of how clinical trials are run.

If there is a severe adverse reaction (SAE) these have to be investigated and reported, both to the health authority and to investigators on the trial.

A death in a Covid vaccine trial would for sure result in the trial being suspended whilst it was investigated.

Multiple deaths would almost certainly stop the development in its tracks, and certainly preclude any rapid rollout whilst investigations proceeded. Vaccines require very good safety profiles because of the huge numbers treated with them.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Separately, this shows a real misunderstanding of how clinical trials are run.

Correct

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Correct

Ambiguous one word responses are not a way to generate understanding.

Please elucidate.

 

[vickster]

Ambiguous one word responses are not a way to generate understanding.

Please elucidate.

I read it that he is confirming having a real lack of understanding of how CTs are run

 

[johnblack]

When was this? I can't see a date other than 'December'
And what was the outcome of the lawsuits, also doesn't say, just that they were filed

It was 1976. The lawsuits aren't really the issue, I think the issue with deaths as usual being connected incorrectly to having the jab will lead to problems. This was 1976, no social media, no 24 hour news to fill.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Ambiguous one word responses are not a way to generate understanding.

Please elucidate.

How do I "elucidate" that I am agreeing with you, I tell you what, you're clearly spoiling for an argument, which TBH I'm not, so have a good day now.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

How do I "elucidate" that I am agreeing with you, I tell you what, you're clearly spoiling for an argument, which TBH I'm not, so have a good day now.

No, I genuinely didn't know what you meant. You have a good day too.

 

[kingrollo]

I'm about 6th down the list of the ones to be vaccinated. Maybe the government of many U-turns will have decided it doesn't work by then,though i doubt it. Will i have it? I'll do my best to avoid a sadly it seems,craved for by many,compulsory jab.
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No way will it ever be compulsory.

 

[Accy cyclist]

They said that about conscription,when World War One started!

 

[potsy]

They said that about conscription,when World War One started!

Didn't realise you were that old, you must have been too young to be called up?

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Didn't realise you were that old, you must have been too young to be called up?

Or too old, only kidding, honestly

 

[PK99]

But could you not only compare this if all the work was open source always being published on a day to day basis so each could see what the others are doing, I suspect this has not happened as the commercial gain is immense.

Now if Pfizer are prepared to publish all it's findings & not put a patent on the drug, that would be another matter.

You are missing the point an delving into whataboutery.

An actual comparison is not the issue.

Covid research has not needed to join the queue for funding and staff that would be the norm for any other research. All hands to all available pumps has been the order of the day in pharmaceutical research worldwide.

 

[kingrollo]

They said that about conscription,when World War One started!

Well that wins the prize for the obscure side step of the day.

But back to vaccines - are any compulsory...anywhere ?

 

[Julia9054]

Well that wins the prize for the obscure side step of the day.

But back to vaccines - are any compulsory...anywhere ?

Not quite the same as compulsory but I believe some countries require childhood vaccinations as a condition of attending a state run school (Zimbabwe did. when I lived there)

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Didn't realise you were that old, you must have been too young to be called up?

@Accy cyclist has always been 99 even during WW1.