Cricket thread

[Beebo]

England are now very much in a process of change.
The team looks very unsettled and the next couple of years will be interesting.
Will Root want to be captain? If not him then who.

 

[Beebo]

Well this final innings is the perfect encapsulation of the Stokes / Bazball era.

High run rate, crazy attacking shots, silly run outs and ultimately an easy defeat.

 

[AndyRM]

Root and Gay sticking around were our only real hope.

 

[matticus]

Well this final innings is the perfect encapsulation of the Stokes / Bazball era.

High run rate, crazy attacking shots, silly run outs and ultimately an easy defeat.

The stats of the Stokes era do not agree with you.
"
Stokes has captained his country 44 times in Tests and has a win percentage of 54.54%, having won 24 games and lost 17.

In terms of numbers, no other captain who has led England in more than 40 matches in Tests has a higher win percentage than Stokes. The next best is Michael Vaughan, who had a win percentage of 50.98 in 51 matches.

However, for all the success that he had, the 35-year-old failed to achieve the two biggest honours in Test cricket- the Ashes, and defeating India in India."

... and I believe he is still ahead in Tests against NZL.

 

[Beebo]

The stats of the Stokes era do not agree with you.
"
Stokes has captained his country 44 times in Tests and has a win percentage of 54.54%, having won 24 games and lost 17.

In terms of numbers, no other captain who has led England in more than 40 matches in Tests has a higher win percentage than Stokes. The next best is Michael Vaughan, who had a win percentage of 50.98 in 51 matches.

However, for all the success that he had, the 35-year-old failed to achieve the two biggest honours in Test cricket- the Ashes, and defeating India in India."

... and I believe he is still ahead in Tests against NZL.

I can’t deny the stats, but.
My perception is there are times when England could have played more conservatively for a draw, or even a glorious rear guard defeat,
But this never seemed to be his way. It was only ever win the game or go down swinging.
And maybe that just doesn’t sit well with my idea of what Test cricket is/was.

 

[Pross]

They could definitely have played more conservatively at times and I suspect the grounds would have been glad of an extra day of play on many occasions but if they changed style and lost there would still have been critics. I like the positive attitude and entertaining cricket, that's not to say there haven't been moments where players have just played stupid cricket and got out needlessly but that is more to do with poor decisions than the actual ethos.

 

[T4tomo]

I'm very glad the days of

• run rates of 2.5 per over
• batting to take time out of the game
• ensuring you cant lose before you try to win
• etc

are hopefully well behind us.

I wouldn't be surprised if McCullum and Key step down at some point this summer

 

[rich p]

It was fun while it lasted... except on the occasions it wasn't.
It worked better in the beginning with Bairstow and Butler and Stokes crashing the ball everywhere.
Not sure where Brook will take this team if he gets the gig given the tarnished legacy.