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Pross

Veteran
I think Stokes bluffed them a little bit as well, I am sure they were expecting a declaration. Karma for the outrageous time wasting.

Brilliant from Root and Archer showed how dangerous a hitter at 11 can be. 250ish and we were toast, over 300 now puts a different spin on it (pun intended).

Early in Archer's innings he skied a ball and it felt like no real effort was made to take the catch. That could really bite them now. Four ducks in the England innings is less good.
 

Pross

Veteran
Have to say, I know I got a good deal on TNT for the cycling and having The Ashes is a bonus but I'm impressed with their coverage. Really enjoying the biomechanical graphics and decent commentary / pundits.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Senior Member
I don't see why they can't just be forced to bowl out their overs when playing under lights, it's not like they have to worry about it getting dark.

As in other sports, there should be some kind of on field penalty (not the post match fines) to really discourage it. Yellow card meaning one bowler gets taken out of the attack for 20 overs, red card and they are removed for the innings? Extra runs handed to the batting team? Will never happen but I suspect something like that would hurry teams along!
 
As in other sports, there should be some kind of on field penalty (not the post match fines) to really discourage it. Yellow card meaning one bowler gets taken out of the attack for 20 overs, red card and they are removed for the innings? Extra runs handed to the batting team? Will never happen but I suspect something like that would hurry teams along!

If fans are seeing 9-to-20 wickets in a day, does it really matter? (If AUS gained some advantage today, then maybe yes ...)
 

Pross

Veteran
As in other sports, there should be some kind of on field penalty (not the post match fines) to really discourage it. Yellow card meaning one bowler gets taken out of the attack for 20 overs, red card and they are removed for the innings? Extra runs handed to the batting team? Will never happen but I suspect something like that would hurry teams along!

Add runs by multiplying the run rate for the day by the number of unbowled overs.
 

Pross

Veteran
If fans are seeing 9-to-20 wickets in a day, does it really matter? (If AUS gained some advantage today, then maybe yes ...)

They were aiming to gain an advantage, it just didn't work out. They had someone bring a helmet out to Travis Head for one ball then took it back off again just to try to reduce the chances of having to bat in unfavourable conditions.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Senior Member
Fair point, as per your last part I would say if teams are using it to affect the game to their advantage (as the Aussies were trying to do) then yes I think it can be a real issue.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
Extras outscoring half our lineup is a concern.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
I think Stokes bluffed them a little bit as well, I am sure they were expecting a declaration. Karma for the outrageous time wasting.

Brilliant from Root and Archer showed how dangerous a hitter at 11 can be. 250ish and we were toast, over 300 now puts a different spin on it (pun intended).
Get another streaky 25 runs tomorrow and we are 350 all out. Which isn’t too bad.
 
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