Cycling on an evening in a the city centre - how to deal with aggressive men

[winjim]

Who and why?

@jonny jeez complaining about anti-male sexism in the media.

(Maybe I should've put some sort of smiley face in. I get the point he's making, and I'm kind of joking really)

 

[jarlrmai]

Getting shouted at by idiots is all part of cycling, it can be intimidating though.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Getting shouted at by idiots is all part of cycling.

Buy why? Nobody would randomly shout at a jogger - I think?

 

[jarlrmai]

They do, my mates runs a lot gets shouted at by idiots.

Do something different to a lot of people, get shouted at it's the British way.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

They do, my mates runs a lot gets shouted at by idiots.

Do something different to a lot of people, get shouted at it's the British way.

Ah, never knew that!

 

[Andy_R]

I've found that one of the cheap chinese light cannons work a treat...just point it in their general direction and wait for the screams to subside......

 

[Andy_R]

that reminds me, @fossyant have you got one of these yet? owwww......my eyes.....l

 

[jonny jeez]

@jonny jeez complaining about anti-male sexism in the media.

(Maybe I should've put some sort of smiley face in. I get the point he's making, and I'm kind of joking really)

i think maybe you should have too.

 

[Hip Priest]

Can you imagine if just 20% of the adverts on telly were re written with role reversal.

Men are nearly always portrayed on telly ads as hapless, clueless mankids incapable of shopping, washing, ironing or even looking after their own children.

It seems like a right "larf" but I find it increasingly frustrating.

Perhaps I am actually getting old. Mrs g says its because the ads are aimed at the person in the household who controls the family purse...which is an insult in itself really.


I've just re- read this and I sound about 80.

Sigh

Yes. When are men going to catch a break?

 

[winjim]

i think maybe you should have too.

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/cy...-deal-with-aggressive-men.169491/post-3395698

Happy?

 

[jonny jeez]

Yes. When are men going to catch a break?

But that's just a lazy approach.

And this next bit isn't aimed at you....

We shall never move forward on equality of many issues unless we accept that crap happened in the past and move on...two wrongs don't make a right and tipping the balance too far to gain some form of retribution never works.

Ask an Israeli or a Palestinian

Like it or not, the peace that exists in Ireland right now is part of an acceptance to just, kind of, forget all the past atrocities and move on. As a result crimes have gone unpunished and criminals set free.

I spend a lot of time in Ireland with work and can tell you it's an approach that sits uneasy with many but has an acceptance that it is, most likely, the only way forward.

In reality @winjim is spot on, on many issues, many of us speak from a position of privilege...but something has to balance and where I may 'win' as a male, I may lose on other issues in the pursuit of that same balance.

Equality is the objective.

 

[jonny jeez]

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/cy...-deal-with-aggressive-men.169491/post-3395698

Happy?

Thank you .

I do take the point though, see above.

 

[winjim]

Thank you .

I do take the point though, see above.

I'm just trying to reduce a complex debate to a series of pithy statements.

 

[theclaud]

But that's just a lazy approach.

And this next bit isn't aimed at you....

We shall never move forward on equality of many issues unless we accept that crap happened in the past and move on...two wrongs don't make a right and tipping the balance too far to gain some form of retribution never works.

[...]

In reality @winjim is spot on, on many issues, many of us speak from a position of privilege...but something has to balance and where I may 'win' as a male, I may lose on other issues in the pursuit of that same balance.

Equality is the objective.

It's not about the past, or about retribution - it's about the present, and about equality.

 

[Hip Priest]

But that's just a lazy approach.

It wasn't an approach, it was a sarcastic remark. I'm presuming you're a white man, as I am. And as white men, we're the least prejudiced-against demographic in the world.