Ming the Merciless
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Well he can take photos next time, so we have an idea. But it’s going to pretty rare someone is cycling on a pavement if the cycle lane is better.
Cycling on Footpaths increasing - ?
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Well he can take photos next time, so we have an idea. But it’s going to pretty rare someone is cycling on a pavement if the cycle lane is better.
Interesting point that when the council close a footpath for repairs, the red & white sign invariably reads 'Footway closed'.
As we still have dual carriageways, but when was the last time you saw a coach & four on one - ?
grldtnr
Veteran
Thi g is whilst we have a hostile reaction from motorist, we are not going to rid ourselves of poor cycle I infrastructure, non competent bike users will just default to pavement riding, with the attends annoyance of Peds like me.
They say 'we can't have cycle infrastructure in Britain, that's rot, just look to our continental cousins across the North Sea , the Dutch were in a bad place I. The '60's & 70's , untill they got what they campaigned for, the country is more densely populated than us here, but the Infrastructure is primarily about cycle safety, it works , you rarely see a Dutch cyclist on the pavement, except where they are allowed, with a low incidence of helmet wear, if the Dutch can do it ,then so can we.
It just takes pressure on the powers that be to make it happen.
They say 'we can't have cycle infrastructure in Britain, that's rot, just look to our continental cousins across the North Sea , the Dutch were in a bad place I. The '60's & 70's , untill they got what they campaigned for, the country is more densely populated than us here, but the Infrastructure is primarily about cycle safety, it works , you rarely see a Dutch cyclist on the pavement, except where they are allowed, with a low incidence of helmet wear, if the Dutch can do it ,then so can we.
It just takes pressure on the powers that be to make it happen.
Drago
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Well, it's not as if we never see cars on the footway, eh?
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Worth remembering the govt advice to police in 1999 and reiterated in 2014 that police should "use discretion" - ie do not fine - if a cyclist is on the footpath because they consider the road too dangerous.
https://www.cyclinguk.org/news/goodwill-reiterates-footway-cycling-guidance
I don't know if it's still in force. I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
Edit. Here are the words "The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road and sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required."
Just common sense really. Read the situation. Show respect to others, dismount if necessary. You'll be fine.
https://www.cyclinguk.org/news/goodwill-reiterates-footway-cycling-guidance
I don't know if it's still in force. I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
Edit. Here are the words "The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road and sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required."
Just common sense really. Read the situation. Show respect to others, dismount if necessary. You'll be fine.
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albion
Guru
You have to go with the situation.
If I am cycling up a long hill with busy fast traffic, if available and safe, I often go onto the pavement.
Dangerous passing takes place more often during slow riding.
Traffic being so heavy, I can also understand people not feeling safe on the road.
For them footpaths may be the saner route.
If I am cycling up a long hill with busy fast traffic, if available and safe, I often go onto the pavement.
Dangerous passing takes place more often during slow riding.
Traffic being so heavy, I can also understand people not feeling safe on the road.
For them footpaths may be the saner route.
And often the 'guilty party' is the sort of bloke who looks like he wouldn't think twice about having a fracas outside his local or at the footy ground - !
There use to one locally but that only nominally avoided a pedestrian crossing so instead of stopping at the crossing you had to plough through pedestrians waiting to cross and then give way to traffic to rejoin. And all on an uphill grade
Thankfully it was got rid of
N Yorks council has apologised and given me a different link to complain about the tree root but it still goes to the same pin a highway etc map. Another email sent.
Drago
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I think most offenders don't give it any thought. The do it because they have no moral compass or desire to obey even minor laws and not because the bulk of them think rhenroadnis a scary place.
All uphill
Still rolling along
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- Somerset
Maybe some of them just feel safer and see no harm?
I tend to cycle on a pavement when shopping at one store as it means not using the A61 and battling through the entire length of the car park with cars reversing out in front of you. The pavement is wide and quite often void of pedestrians. if I come up to a pedestrian I put one foot on the floor and use that to propel the bike along. There is a footway entrance off that pavement which leads to the cycle racks. Pity no one thought about putting a dropped keb for any cyclist braving that part of the A61 which is pretty busy being the main southbound exit from the towb centre.
I was slightly surprised last weekend when leaving using the car exit out onto a completely different road and alongside which is the busy main footway to see someone cycling in that on footway.
I was slightly surprised last weekend when leaving using the car exit out onto a completely different road and alongside which is the busy main footway to see someone cycling in that on footway.
Drago
Legendary Member
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I think only a small minority do so for thet reason and see no harm. The bulk simply don't give a sheet.
grldtnr
Veteran
And often the 'guilty party' is the sort of bloke who looks like he wouldn't think twice about having a fracas outside his local or at the footy ground - !
Quiet so! Normally covered in tatts' half a scrapyard in their face, and most likely consuming any number of harmful or non legal substances.....
The very person who's making the road dangerous, happens to be 'scared' of cycling in the road, thus making dangerous for sensible peds'like me.
There is that element of 'Karn't be arsed!' to comply with the local laws.
A whole bunch of feckless twonks!
Now I've vented my spleen, and wiped the spittle from my face, I'll settle down with my mug of Horlicks and the valium ,then retire to bed.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
The pavements round my way are all too blocked with parked cars, wheely bins and discarded Lime bikes to be worth cycling on.
