Debian said:Yes, you're quite correct.
...and while it is illegal, anyone who believes it is appropriate to dissuade a four year old accompanied by an adult from riding on a quiet pavement really would need their head examined.
Debian said:Yes, you're quite correct.
Cab said:They're not. They merely cannot be prosecuted because they're under the age of criminal whats its name. They're still breaking the law and Plod should, technically, stop them.
Arch said:Oh, ok. I have no problem with a little kid on the pavement anyway. It's the older ones and adults who ought to know better.
Arch said:Oh, ok. I have no problem with a little kid on the pavement anyway. It's the older ones and adults who ought to know better.
Barbelier said:Oh that's okay then! So if a motor cycle did the same but "didn't do any harm" you would accept that as well?
+1Arch said:But the point is, someone (especially someone vulnerable like an elderly or frail person) may be frightened dozens of times, and never hurt. That doesn't make the fright any less real for them.
It's easy to be blase about fear when you're fit and healthy and active. But many people are very afraid of a fall that might break a hip, or hurt their back - I know I've been very cagey the last few weeks, with a sore back.
Actually, if people could be trusted to cycle responsibly on the pavements (slowly, no weaving in and out of people), I'd have no problem with it. As ever, it's the thoughtless few who make the rules necessary, and if there's a rule, I like to see it obeyed.
JamesAC said:+1
The trouble is, you rarely, if ever, see a cyclist cycling slowly on the pavement (ie at or slower than walking pace) - they are always tearing about, weaving between pedestrians. And pedestrians includes young children, parents with kids in prams, visually impaired people, less able people, old folk.
JamesAC said:+1
The trouble is, you rarely, if ever, see a cyclist cycling slowly on the pavement (ie at or slower than walking pace) - they are always tearing about, weaving between pedestrians. And pedestrians includes young children, parents with kids in prams, visually impaired people, less able people, old folk.
Stay on the road, if you're a cyclist, where you should be.
Cab said:You rarely see joggers going at less than walking pace, they're usually going much faster and often weaving in and out between pedestrians. Would you seek to bar them from using the pavements on those grounds?
Again, I find myself wondering why if it is so very dangerous there are gvanishingly few serious accidents caused by this.
I agree, it should generally be discouraged, and I don't do it. But its just not that big a deal.
I see it quite often. It may be that you only notice the inconsiderate cyclists, just because they're the potential threat, and either ignore or don't remember the considerate ones (or it may just be that our experiences differ)JamesAC said:The trouble is, you rarely, if ever, see a cyclist cycling slowly on the pavement (ie at or slower than walking pace) - they are always tearing about, weaving between pedestrians.