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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Inside my skull
Recovery day today after a long weekend away riding.

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usually riding on Zwift or up steep hills...
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This is my training load and form since I started measuring power in 2021. The only time I dropped below -30 was when my wife and kids were away for the day and I was able to sneak out for a 100-miler. Otherwise, it's definitely a case of quality over quantity!
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
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This is my training load and form since I started measuring power in 2021. The only time I dropped below -30 was when my wife and kids were away for the day and I was able to sneak out for a 100-miler. Otherwise, it's definitely a case of quality over quantity!
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Yeah, long weekend wasn’t training but a social. Only normally drop below -30 during my events or touring.
 
I had the VO2max workout (Gendarme+3) in my Calendar tonight and after marking it a ‘Maximum Effort‘ un TrainerRoads post ride survey and some intervals where I was well below target, I was expecting a further fail survey, which I was going to put down to injury. But I never got a fail. I’ve got a sore inside ankle, I either whacked it on my cranks out side or strained it using ERG (fighting the spiral of death or pulled up to too hard when the resistance automatically became zero after a max interval). So I done tonight’s session in Resistance mode. Tried using the +/- buttons in the first block but it was a bit of a failure when I tried to drink. The next block ran better when I used the shifters instead. Importantly the inside ankle never deteriorated.
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I don't know how intervals.icu measures fatigue, as 96 sounds high but I've never been in the red overtraining zone.
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Norry1

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Wendy had a
On a separate matter - my good lady has just completed 2 weeks of the Zwift 6 week FTP Builder programme - and is loving it ^_^

It will be interesting to see what it does to her FTP by the end.

Wendy had an Endurance ride from this plan scheduled yesterday.

I left her to it and did some other stuff. When I came back in, she was looking a bit ragged and sweating profusely saying how hard it was.

It took me most of the day to work out that she had been trying to change gear in Erg during a low cadence part and on the Zwift Ride, which had the effect of increasing the workout intensity. She ended up doing most of the workout at 116% of the intended power.

No wonder it was tough ^_^ 🤷‍♀️
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
I had the VO2max workout (Gendarme+3) in my Calendar tonight and after marking it a ‘Maximum Effort‘ un TrainerRoads post ride survey and some intervals where I was well below target, I was expecting a further fail survey, which I was going to put down to injury. But I never got a fail. I’ve got a sore inside ankle, I either whacked it on my cranks out side or strained it using ERG (fighting the spiral of death or pulled up to too hard when the resistance automatically became zero after a max interval). So I done tonight’s session in Resistance mode. Tried using the +/- buttons in the first block but it was a bit of a failure when I tried to drink. The next block ran better when I used the shifters instead. Importantly the inside ankle never deteriorated.
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I don't know how intervals.icu measures fatigue, as 96 sounds high but I've never been in the red overtraining zone.
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It’s the difference between fitness and fatigue you need to keep an eye on. If your fatigue is a lot higher than your fitness then it’s more than you are used to handling. A risk of injury (or burnout). This is reflected in your form. Joe Friel in Fast after Fifty reckoned to keep form in -10 to -30 range to be productive. Intervals is showing yours as -5
 
Lol, without thinking I threw dinner in the oven, then remembered I had a workout to do. Thankfully it was only an Endurance workout (Echo -5) and I got away with only giving it 15minutes to settle. My other faux pa was forgetting to fill my bottle after last night’s session. An 1/8 of a bottle was right for the session though.

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After that my Guesstimated (Garmin) VO2max is up one to 62 and my form just onto +ve numbers which I think sets me up for tomorrow night's threshold session.
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Norry1

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I had a pretty standard Endurance workout scheduled for yesterday but I decided to make it my once-weekly Torque session. Zwift was down so I loaded up TPV which doesn't auto load workouts from TrainerRoad so I jumped on a Pacer Bot ride.

I did 6 x 5 minutes Torque efforts - these are great in TPV as it shows the Torque on the display. I was averaging just over 50Nm at RPM around 35-40.

Think I'll create a basic Endurance workout in TPV and just crank the Bias up when I want to do the Torque sessions in future.
 
Remembered tonight to put off tea and fill the bottle and I needed it for tonight’s Threshold session (Asta) at least for the first 50minutes until I warmed up (it seemed more doable after that). I was also looking forward to my :hungry:. Then I remembered what I forgot, Tinfoil for the oven tray. Doh, so it was a walk to the a local mini market to buy some and the glorious weather from my other two walks today disappeared.
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After that my form is down to 0

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TrainerRoad knew what I wanted tonight workout wise. It first gave me what was achievable based on my VO2max record, and whilst it increased slightly in difficulty tonight it changed it to a 30/30 workout. Which for me is even more achievable despite the rating. It meant I was in a good state to see the first goal of tonight’s game on the trainer, before jumping off to shout for 60+ minutes

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America here we come :thumbsup:

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After that Intervals says my Form is -2 but it feels like +500 :wahhey::wahhey::wahhey::wahhey::dance::dance::dance::dance:

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Nice one.

Looking at your charts I see that you are in the Fresh and Grey Zones quite a lot. Since I have been on TrainerRoad, I am also in those zones much more than I used to be even though my Plan is set to Agressive. Is that normal with TR?
 

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