A shocking bit of driving by someone in a very large vehicle.
Cyclist Assault Conviction
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A shocking bit of driving by someone in a very large vehicle.
CopperCyclist
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I agree in the cases were people are willing to make a genuine effort to get off, and stay off drugs. I disagree where they make no effort, but get given endless assistance costing thousands.
semislickstick
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What have you done to that video in editing, it looks a bit unnatural. Image stabilizing? Zooming, pan and cropping?
Reminds me a little of this...
View: http://youtu.be/0vqgdSsfqPs?t=5s
cd365
Guru
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- Coventry, uk
They don't send people to jail for being a dug addict, they are sent to jail for crimes committed, drug addiction in my opinion is not an excuse to be a thief etc.
Yes, I agree with this, but at the same time sending them to prison doesn't seem to acheive anything.
It isn't, and I didn't say it was.
CopperCyclist
Veteran
In terms of their drug addiction, no it doesn't. In terms of preventing the burglaries/robberies/thefts that they WILL continue to commit the second they are free, yes it does - albeit often briefly.
Is there another way? How effective are community treatment programmes? I understand that the person has to want to help themselves, but a choice of prison or treatment seems much more positive.
[QUOTE 1831088, member: 45"]Getting someone off drugs is one thing. Getting them out of the situation which they were in and away from the likelihood of them slipping back is extremely complicated and resource-hungry.[/quote]
I'm sure it is, and I have no experience in this area, but that must be a better option than prison, surely?
I'm sure it is, and I have no experience in this area, but that must be a better option than prison, surely?
CopperCyclist
Veteran
Depends on the cold figures I suppose. If you're willing to waste (and sometimes it truly is waste) time and money on a few hundred failures for one success, then maybe it is.
The cynic in me though thinks that the one success probably would have come looking for the help voluntarily.
Sigh - I accept I cannot really comment here. My view is massively skewed, because of course I meet, regularly and consistently, those people who have had all the help, failed to cease their habit, and reoffended. There's a part of me that thinks that when you're looking at a habitual offender with over 250 convictions, perhaps it's time to admit defeat and simply protect society rather than continue efforts for that single individual (and yes, I quote from experience there).
Like I say though, perhaps I'm not best placed to comment - perhaps there's the bloke out here with 249 convictions that's turned his life around after having drug treatment forced upon him yet again!
The cynic in me though thinks that the one success probably would have come looking for the help voluntarily.
Sigh - I accept I cannot really comment here. My view is massively skewed, because of course I meet, regularly and consistently, those people who have had all the help, failed to cease their habit, and reoffended. There's a part of me that thinks that when you're looking at a habitual offender with over 250 convictions, perhaps it's time to admit defeat and simply protect society rather than continue efforts for that single individual (and yes, I quote from experience there).
Like I say though, perhaps I'm not best placed to comment - perhaps there's the bloke out here with 249 convictions that's turned his life around after having drug treatment forced upon him yet again!
Got to admit it really pisses off the victims though.
My parents were burgled.
The guy who did it had wandered up and down outside the petrol station 2 doors away. The attendant knew him by rep and as soon as he saw the coppers he gave them a shout to watch the CCTV
Next day they got a call to let them know he was a local junkie. Plod had essentially gone round 6 a.m. and dragged him from where he was trying to climb naked into the loft. <sarcasm> He's a well liked bloke, even at that time there were neighbours out cheering <sarcasm>
They were told "don't worry, he's got an extensive history. He's already on bail. He's not getting out and definitely going down for a spell."
He was let out on bail.
They were told that plod weren't happy and were thinking about complaining the decision. They were told they could complain. But they were told, on the bright side, he's definitely going down. Remand is easier than prison and remand would have been classed as 'time served', coming off the eventual sentence.
He was given rehab
BTW he's since reoffended.
My parents were burgled.
The guy who did it had wandered up and down outside the petrol station 2 doors away. The attendant knew him by rep and as soon as he saw the coppers he gave them a shout to watch the CCTV
Next day they got a call to let them know he was a local junkie. Plod had essentially gone round 6 a.m. and dragged him from where he was trying to climb naked into the loft. <sarcasm> He's a well liked bloke, even at that time there were neighbours out cheering <sarcasm>
They were told "don't worry, he's got an extensive history. He's already on bail. He's not getting out and definitely going down for a spell."
He was let out on bail.
They were told that plod weren't happy and were thinking about complaining the decision. They were told they could complain. But they were told, on the bright side, he's definitely going down. Remand is easier than prison and remand would have been classed as 'time served', coming off the eventual sentence.
He was given rehab
BTW he's since reoffended.
I won't pretend there's an easy solution, and I quite understand the frustration with people who refuse to be helped.
As I said, I have no direct experience in the matter.
Maybe we should dish out free drugs to addicts - it would be cheaper than prison, and they wouldn't commit robberies to fund their habit.
As I said, I have no direct experience in the matter.
Maybe we should dish out free drugs to addicts - it would be cheaper than prison, and they wouldn't commit robberies to fund their habit.
marafi
Rolling down the hills with the bike.
- Location
- univeristy is my home for now. lol
Pathetic, never take any road rage on ANYONE even for the cyclist. Silly women.
Oh my she certainly needs to sort out her depression! Her poor children and Mr Mashall's wife!!
Oh my she certainly needs to sort out her depression! Her poor children and Mr Mashall's wife!!
MrHappyCyclist
Riding the Devil's HIghway
- Location
- Bolton, England
That's an interesting question as it is a point on which the highway code and the advice given in Cyclecraft are at odds. The highway code says you should go around the roundabout in the left hand lane, indicating right as you pass each exit, whereas Cyclecraft (and, I think, Bikeability) says you should use the correct lane just as if you were in a car.
doug
Veteran
The highway code doesn't quite go as far as saying that you should go around in the left lane, but does give advice on how to do this safely if you choose to do so, it extends but doesn't override the general rules for roundabouts that applies to all vehicles.
I think this means you are free to use your judgement on which way is best and still be compliant with the code. I generally approach roundabouts as I would in a car.
growingvegetables
Guru
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- Leeds
Ummmm - no? Not now, at any rate (thank goodness!)
Rule 76 - "Full details about the correct procedure at roundabouts are contained in Rules 184–190." (same rules as for all vehicles
)Rule 187 - "In all cases watch out for and give plenty of room to .....
- cyclists and horse riders who may stay in the left-hand lane and signal right if they intend to continue round the roundabout. Allow them to do so."
