Cyclist gets points on licence
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just had to say this is crazy . Firstly it is disproportionate and should have received a warning only especially given that he was in an area he was not familiar with and that he was cycling for charity.
Points on his driving license is ridiculous and I would't be surprised if that was illegal. Clearly many cyclists do not have a driving license.
This is why I now do not support the Police in the same way I used to. I seriously doubt if I would wade in to a melee to save a copper being beaten up. I can't think of a single instance in the past decade where I felt proud of the actions of our Police force.
Points on his driving license is ridiculous and I would't be surprised if that was illegal. Clearly many cyclists do not have a driving license.
This is why I now do not support the Police in the same way I used to. I seriously doubt if I would wade in to a melee to save a copper being beaten up. I can't think of a single instance in the past decade where I felt proud of the actions of our Police force.
medals
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Bob said:
Lol! Good one.
Fnaar
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The same stretch of motorway today saw a lorry shed its load of onions over the carriageway... police have advised motorists to find a hard shoulder to cry on
Police have admitted they were wrong to give a fixed penalty to a charity cyclist caught pedalling up a motorway shortly after arriving in Scotland. Jamie Barton, 34, from Essex, was stopped by officers on the A74(M) motorway near Gretna on Sunday.
He was fined £60 and had three penalty points added to his driving licence after being pulled over by officers on the inside lane of the motorway.
Dumfries and Galloway Constabulary said it had now cancelled the penalty.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/8149629.stm
He was fined £60 and had three penalty points added to his driving licence after being pulled over by officers on the inside lane of the motorway.
Dumfries and Galloway Constabulary said it had now cancelled the penalty.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/8149629.stm
Arch
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You have to wonder about someone who didn't notice they were on a motorway. Or someone who even let themselves get on a route with such major roads - presumably the satnav was set up for cars? Just goes to show, it's not just drivers who follow them like sheep. Did he not look at any roadsigns along the way? If he didn't notice something like that, what the heck is his traffic awareness like?
I'll stick to reading and understanding a map, I think.
I'll stick to reading and understanding a map, I think.
Piemaster
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Crankarm
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Mr Barton will now have to do battle with DVLA to get his points removed from his driving license 
. I feel it rather rude if plod didn't make a donation to Mr Barton's chosen charity the hospice.....given their rather heavy handed and disproportionate response to his infraction of motorway traffic regs. Why they couldn't have taken him off the motorway with "words of advice" beggars belief. "You're a very naughty boy..." 
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. I feel it rather rude if plod didn't make a donation to Mr Barton's chosen charity the hospice.....given their rather heavy handed and disproportionate response to his infraction of motorway traffic regs. Why they couldn't have taken him off the motorway with "words of advice" beggars belief. "You're a very naughty boy..." .
wafflycat
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Speaking of sat-navs... As Mr Wafflycat's work involves many miles of driving and to many different locations, I got him a sat-nav (top of range one). It undoubtedly has its uses. It is of great use for the latter stages of a long journey when arriving at previously unvisited destination in strange place - it will get you door to door efficiently. What it does do, though, if you start depending on it as your main navigation aid, I have found, is that unless you are very careful, you start to rely on it rather than being utterly aware of the route and the road. When Mr WC had a leg in plaster (for over six months) & I was acting as business chauffeur, I was using the sat-nav on a daily basis and I really had to make a determined effort to not become overly reliant upon it. Driving without a sat-nav, you use maps/landmarks much more overtly, whereas once the sat-nav kicks in it's all too easy to start to subconciously ignore those & rely on the 'turn left' 'turn right' noises from the little screen on the top of the dashboard. It's great for long distance driving as you don't have to find places to stop to look at a map, but I can see how folk come to depend on it and then do stupid things as sat-navs are not infallible. On a bike, I am happiest with my OS maps in my map holder.
mangaman
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I like maps though - especially on long journeys (assuming you leave a bit of time)
Often you can look at the map and notice a little something - like an interesting looking place to stop and have a break - a few miles off your route, which unless you pre-programme it the satnav would ignore
I never stop at service stations but look for interesting looking little villages etc 5-10 miles off the main road.
It's amazing what secret joys you find
Often you can look at the map and notice a little something - like an interesting looking place to stop and have a break - a few miles off your route, which unless you pre-programme it the satnav would ignore
I never stop at service stations but look for interesting looking little villages etc 5-10 miles off the main road.
It's amazing what secret joys you find
Jane Smart
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I have no idea how the heck ( as has already been said ) he did not know he was on a motorway
Geeze I know it if I am on a road, never mind a motorway
However, you would think the police would just have warned him, as he was ( as again already been said ) doing it for charity.
I have a few pals that are police and also cyclists, they would not have been heavy handed like that I know 
Geeze I know it if I am on a road, never mind a motorway
However, you would think the police would just have warned him, as he was ( as again already been said ) doing it for charity.
I have a few pals that are police and also cyclists, they would not have been heavy handed like that I know 
Davidc
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Quite agree with Wafflycat. Another oddity is that satnavs seem to stop people learning regular routes.
When any of us follows a long or complicated route with a map we learn it, together with landmarks and cues, in two or three goes. When being told where to go by a satnav that just doesn't seem to happen. It seems common, not just me.
When any of us follows a long or complicated route with a map we learn it, together with landmarks and cues, in two or three goes. When being told where to go by a satnav that just doesn't seem to happen. It seems common, not just me.
Yeah. If you navigate by map you (hopefully!) have some idea of where you're going: if you do it by satnav you just get spoonfed the next turn and not the context to "hang" it on - this makes route learning much harder imo.
Also means if the satnav maps aren't accurate that you're probably a whole lot further up the swannee than you would be if your brain was switched on.
I'm not a massive fan. I'm sure eventually they'll work the technology out so it behaves more like a passenger with map, but it's not there yet
Also means if the satnav maps aren't accurate that you're probably a whole lot further up the swannee than you would be if your brain was switched on.
I'm not a massive fan. I'm sure eventually they'll work the technology out so it behaves more like a passenger with map, but it's not there yet
We live in one of those places that seems to be beyond the capability of GPS mapping people to understand.
Not unusual to see an artic stuck up the road. Driven by all the "Single track road with passing places", weight limit signs and all the rest of it, pleading that it's the route the satnav said was OK.
One glance at a map, and even if you can't read the detail, the 90 degree bends rather give it away.
Not unusual to see an artic stuck up the road. Driven by all the "Single track road with passing places", weight limit signs and all the rest of it, pleading that it's the route the satnav said was OK.
One glance at a map, and even if you can't read the detail, the 90 degree bends rather give it away.
on the road
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They usually make it up as they go along.medals said:There are some pretty thick coppers around arn't there?
