Cyclist killed in Southampton

[growingvegetables]

RIP

 

[downfader]

Both drivers have now been bailed. One comment on the Echo forums suggests that someone saw the crash and talked to the Police

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10114455.Motorists_held_over_cyclist_death_are_bailed/

However the person in question hasnt been that favourable to cycling on related stories so might not be as honest as you'd hope/expect: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9545568.Call_to_make_cycling_safer/ (5.03 comment by SaintM)

 

[Maz]

This is very sad news.
Inna Lillah Wa Ina Ilaihi Rajioun. Rest In Peace.

 

[Trevrev]

Both drivers have now been bailed. One comment on the Echo forums suggests that someone saw the crash and talked to the Police

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10114455.Motorists_held_over_cyclist_death_are_bailed/

However the person in question hasnt been that favourable to cycling on related stories so might not be as honest as you'd hope/expect: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9545568.Call_to_make_cycling_safer/ (5.03 comment by SaintM)

I've just read SaintM's comments, he's so anti cyclist, how the hell can he be a safe witness.

 

[numbnuts]

After reading some of the comments we are about as popular as a turd in a swimming pool

 

[Riverman]

Both drivers have now been bailed. One comment on the Echo forums suggests that someone saw the crash and talked to the Police

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10114455.Motorists_held_over_cyclist_death_are_bailed/

However the person in question hasnt been that favourable to cycling on related stories so might not be as honest as you'd hope/expect: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9545568.Call_to_make_cycling_safer/ (5.03 comment by SaintM)

hmm, that does sound a bit suspicious.

 

[Riverman]

That road is right next to where i live. Very fast road. Main route into city centre. I've never cycled along it myself.

I agree the road is very dangerous, especially if riding on the other side of the road from the police station to where that crash happened.

Incidentally, the opposite side does have a cycle path 'of sorts'. The problem is, it's not correctly marked as a cycle path and it would be easy to ride on the other side unaware that there's a large footpath opposite accessible via a road bridge at Millbrook station, or traffic lights at the co-operative.

I mean has this man really died because councils over the years can't be bothered to put up a few signs? I honestly think this might be the case.

Moreover, it's possible to cycle all the way from freemantle to the docks without using the main road as there's a side road along the docks. However, the side road is used by massive lorries and is probably the most potholed road I've ever come across. It's severly neglected, even the tiny bit of cycle path on it barely has any paint anymore...

 

[downfader]

Incidentally people on the Echo forums are making excuses of "low sun". They perhaps confuse the car with a train.. this video gives a good counter to some of those excuses:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8pX52v_yNA


And I speak to the youtuber on twitter. Pretty sound and rational bloke.

 

[downfader]

I agree the road is very dangerous, especially if riding on the other side of the road from the police station to where that crash happened.

Incidentally, the opposite side does have a cycle path 'of sorts'. The problem is, it's not correctly marked as a cycle path and it would be easy to ride on the other side unaware that there's a large footpath opposite accessible via a road bridge at Millbrook station, or traffic lights at the co-operative.

I mean has this man really died because councils over the years can't be bothered to put up a few signs? I honestly think this might be the case.

Moreover, it's possible to cycle all the way from freemantle to the docks without using the main road as there's a side road along the docks. However, the side road is used by massive lorries and is probably the most potholed road I've ever come across. It's severly neglected, even the tiny bit of cycle path on it barely has any paint anymore...

Yeah the lorries can be a concern. I know riders at work who come that way and suggest that the sleep-over lorry drivers sometimes pull out of the carpark into their path. A newbie on a bike is going to be terrified if this happens to them and probably never ride again.

The road surfacing is appalling there. I have some video of the route somewhere, dont think I uploaded it but it detailed the hazards and problems riders face down there.

 

[2Loose]

RIP to the guy involved.

@Downfader, I think I have said it before, but having tried to stay calm and rational when commenting in the local rag and failing miserably, I commend you for your stirling and rational efforts Sir.

 

[downfader]

RIP to the guy involved.

@Downfader, I think I have said it before, but having tried to stay calm and rational when commenting in the local rag and failing miserably, I commend you for your stirling and rational efforts Sir.

With some of the ranters on there (either cyclist, driver, pro/anti death sentence on other stories etc etc) it can be bl**dy hard to stay objective....

 

[Trevrev]

Incidentally, the opposite side does have a cycle path 'of sorts'. The problem is, it's not correctly marked as a cycle path and it would be easy to ride on the other side unaware that there's a large footpath opposite accessible via a road bridge at Millbrook station, or traffic lights at the co-operative.

I mean has this man really died because councils over the years can't be bothered to put up a few signs? I honestly think this might be the case.

I go running on the cycle route along that road, and there are stickers on the lamp posts stating that it's part of the national cycle route. But the guy was from Wimbourne, so he had no clue of that cycle route into town, because, as you stated there is no decent signage.

 

[Riverman]

I go running on the cycle route along that road, and there are stickers on the lamp posts stating that it's part of the national cycle route. But the guy was from Wimbourne, so he had no clue of that cycle route into town, because, as you stated there is no decent signage.

Aye, sorry slight typo, I meant a footbridge. To be fair, the main cycle path would take you toward Waterloo road but from there on you've got lots of options and everything becomes residential.

Additionally, I said it was possible to cycle to the docks on that cycle path but it's possible to cycle all the way to Totton from Southampton on that cycle path without touching the road. Infact, with a bit of cross thinking, you could easily create a cycle path all the way to Lyndhurst, which is the route I imagine this cyclist took.

 

[Crankarm]

I would never ever cycle down a road such as this even in my most confident days as a younger road biker. It's just too frikin dangerous for cyclists as has sadly been shown.

 

[downfader]

I would never ever cycle down a road such as this even in my most confident days as a younger road biker. It's just too frikin dangerous for cyclists as has sadly been shown.

I used to when I was 14.. I had work experience past Redbridge and would ride out on the road as there was no off-road facility back then (1991-ish). Certainly not that I was aware of. Back then I think the cars were mostly slower, there was less traffic and drivers were more accommodating.