subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
she is looking forward to bikeability level 3 whn she is old enough ( 13 i think).
Cyclists - Please stop at red lights
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she is looking forward to bikeability level 3 whn she is old enough ( 13 i think).
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
WTF? This is wrong, assuming you include punishment in that training. Said punishment might include fines, points, compulsory course attendance, strict liability, and insurance premium increases.
I think that we do confront them, I have to every day. Last week this included my next door neighbour who thought it was acceptable to go through three sets of red lights in New Cross. When I challenged her about it she said 'but if you are a pedestrian and there is nothing coming, then you cross don't you?'Not a good attitude. So I spoke to her landlord who is a good pal and is a cycling trainer. Then this woman with her 4 year old on her bike was routinely RLJ-ing, she was doing this for months. So I spoke to her school (the one which her child attends) about this and it has stopped. She was extremely abusive and threatening towards me, even though she was doing this in front of her own child which I found really upsetting. They deserve to be reprimanded and punished but we should not condone violence. I have come close to it, but I have to remind myself that I have to be a decent human being.
TBH I don't think I would be very civil towards you either if you went round sticking your nose into my affairs in that way. Do you take it on yourself to go and remonstrate with and shop all the mums driving and parking badly when dropping their precious bundles off at school too?
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
1845755 said:
Yes, otherwise Hawk would be comparing apples and oranges. Still, I think his point stands that cyclists are somewhat dangerous to pedestrians and other cyclists, but only by a very small amount.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
I don't , but a shake of the head can convey a lot to the driver behind you showing that you as a cyclist think that the other cyclist was a nobber for doing what they did.
theres one plum in Leytonstone who RLJs out of Cathall road and straight onto the pavement the other side and through the war memorial green. he tried a bunnyhop off the pavement the other side and popped his tyre, yes tyre not tube and i did laugh loudly and comment as i rode past less than 30 seconds later.
Might being the operative word here. When a cyclist's life is worth 3 points and a bit of community service at best its not much of a deterrent.
I doubt the driver even notices you are there let alone spots your subtle head movements of reprobation. Perhaps you could wag your finger and tut-tut for him instead.
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
If we had actual traffic enforcement with a real chance of misdeeds being caught and punished, then there would be far less of a problem. I'm glad you agree that driver education does work, after all.
Did I?
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
have a google for Injury free environment, a culture of care and concern for the wellbeing of all.
doing what she does is a perfect example.
and yes i have told a fair few parents what i think of their attitude to safety of not just their children but mine when they park on the yellow zigzags outside the school. or is that another case of choosing which laws you think apply to you??
stowie
Legendary Member
That is a fairly nasty junction to RLJ as the sight lines are poor. And as you say, RLJ rarely gets you further down the road.
I guess my point is that my obligation to police idiots on cycles is the same as my obligation to police idiots speeding in cars. I rarely hear the argument that other motorists should get their house in order and confront moron drivers who flout the law.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
no maybe not, but one of the 1st posts i put on this forum was me putting the wing mirror on a vehicle back into position after a cyclist had clonked it out of position in his hurry to get through a red light. I told the driver we aren't all peanuts who jump red lights and he responded with a yeah i can see that cheers mate. small things can make a huge ripple.
her_welshness
Well-Known Member
This is a woman that has been placing her child into danger on a regular basis, on a number of occasions going into the path of oncoming traffic, in the Oval area where it is particularly bad. The occasion which was particularly upsetting was when she undertook me on the Embankment, it was so dangerous and I just could not comprehend it. I work for Family & Childrens Services dept in the same borough so I do believe that I reported her for valid reasons. The school was very concerned too. And no, I don't go around and rat on everyone and remonstrate with them, the number of children cycling with parents into school in that area is just awesome. I champion cycling and as you know I campaign in our local area too.
caimg
Über Member
I'm assuming from south of the river, the lights before the underpass leads to a right hander which takes you onto the bridge. That's the way I came back over today. Had no problem with the lights though, waited at em like all the others!
