"cyclists stay back" stickers, tfl

[mustang1]

The comments section shows many cyclists are upset with these stickers. Looks like I'm different and don't see the problem, at least its never bothered me. What do these commenters want? Instead of "cyclists stay back" it seems they want "dear cyclists, please stay away from this large vehicle if at all possible and if you are unable to, please take extreme caution and pass as safely as you can".

By the time I've finished reading that, it'll... Anyway.

I saw another post here from a couple of months back and someone suggested just having "CYCLISTS PASS WIDE" which seems fine to me, but wouldn't be surprised if many are offended by that too.

http://road.cc/content/news/120553-new-low-tfl-refuses-order-removal-cyclists-stay-back-stickers

 

[ianrauk]

The stickers are fine imo. Tells me to stay back from the vehicle of which I would be more then happy to do. However there are far more sensitive needy souls on bikes out there who need their hands holding.

 

[gaz]

The stickers are fine imo. Tells me to stay back from the vehicle of which I would be more then happy to do. However there are far more sensitive needy souls on bikes out there who need their hands holding.

You might even say that they need their punctures changed for them

I'll get my coat.

 

[BSRU]

I thought the problem was "I'm a moron" had been missed from the stickers

 

[summerdays]

From what I've seen on twitter it is partly the way it is phased (devolving the responsibility onto cyclists wholly) but also the way that they are being used indiscriminately on any vehicle.

 

[summerdays]

The news item that has just been on the TV news is that the on road tests for the bus Cycle Eye, are going on the Bristol roads starting today. I think it is better than using the sticker.

http://road.cc/content/news/109960-cycle-eye-bike-detection-system-be-trialled-bristol-buses

 

[fimm]

The problem is that they are being put on cars and vans where there isn't a problem in the way there is with big trucks.
http://rdrf.org.uk/2014/05/30/transport-for-london-show-contempt-for-danger-reduction-and-cycling/
See especially the last photo in that link.

 

[ianrauk]

The amount of divvy non thinking cyclists I see on my commute in London, the last picture is what is needed.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

It is more annoying when vehicles with cyclist warning stickers (in general, not tfl) hurtle past inches away. I assume that the close pass would then be okay because there was a sticker warning me to keep away

Also that in the event of a collision, injury or fatality, the presence of the sticker could indeed serve to reduce culpability as it would be "part of a responsible scheme" etc etc..

 

[glenn forger]

Agreed, it's a built-in alibi, I've seen a clip of an HGV driver left hook a cyclist, then get out of the truck and berate the cyclist "I've got stickers!"

 

[glenn forger]

However an inquest has been told that a deceased cyclist had failed to observe a “cyclists stay back” sticker, as if that somehow meant they were at fault.

anyone know that case?

 

[glenn forger]

wtf?

 

[ianrauk]

wtf?

As I posted previously, seeing some of the cyclists on my London commute, they need it spelling out to them.

 

[derrick]

That sign means be careful i don't use my mirrors.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I spotted one in Glasgow a few days ago:



Given the poor attitude by some commercial drivers, it wouldn't surprise me if they thought slapping this sticker on absolved them of any duty of care towards cyclists.


GC