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Profpointy

Legendary Member
I think of DM readers as fearful, timid small-'c' conservatives. They're on the lower rungs of the aspirational ladder and in awe of those further up. They are however terrified of those below them and will stamp on fingers if necessary. Of course their reading matter reinforces their world-view.
(Warning: this post may contain traces of caricature.)

I think it may have been Victor Meldrew likening the "conservative with a small 'c' " defence of the DM to "Dr Goebbels being a nazi with a small 'n' "
 

Ian H

Ancient randonneur
Their choice of reading material, perhaps? But to be fair Telegraph readers are just the same.

The Telegraph used to be a decent paper of record from a right-wing point of view. But it appears that the Barclay Brothers are intent on destroying it.
 

BrumJim

Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
I think that all Newspapers are playing in the last chance saloon. Reduced circulation, in particular amongst the young, are forcing newspapers to become ever more desperate for readers, and owners are becoming ever more despotic. Hence they identify their target market, and allow editorial control from a marketing bent to drive the content, rather than old-fashioned journalistic values of integrity, honesty and thorough research.

Either that, or I am becoming wiser and older.

There is a theory that Media courses at University are well structured highly valuable courses that produce well-prepared and well-balanced graduates. However since they lift the lid on what is happening to newspapers and reporters, they are banging the drum on Media being a useless degree to try and reduce numbers and credibility of those taking the course.
 

GaryA

Subversive Sage
Location
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Up here in the North East of England all the local newspapers bar one* are rubbish. They have changed markedly in the last 20 years from being up-front and being prepared to confront political incompetence and corruption to being pathetic commercial-establishment lackeys.
I wonder if many of you from different parts of country have a similar observation?

*The Northern Echo
 

BrumJim

Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
I think it is a similar story in most places. Local newspapers used to be independent, but I believe most are now owned by big media groups, with most journalism done centrally. You can see remarkably similar stories in local newspapers across the country these days.
 

swansonj

Guru
Back to the Daily Mail. I have just completed some refresher training on Safeguarding in schools. In the section on how cultures get established that enable abuse, there was a list of examples of things that we might feel are acceptable but ought to be challenging. One of them was having adult porn on a phone. I would want to ask: should accessing the Daily Mail website be treated similarly? It seems to me to indicate a similar objectification and dehumanisation of other people.
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
Back to the Daily Mail. I have just completed some refresher training on Safeguarding in schools. In the section on how cultures get established that enable abuse, there was a list of examples of things that we might feel are acceptable but ought to be challenging. One of them was having adult porn on a phone. I would want to ask: should accessing the Daily Mail website be treated similarly? It seems to me to indicate a similar objectification and dehumanisation of other people.

It could be said that those who teach that we should look to others to pay for our needs should be challenged.
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
Is that in any way relevant to the point that swansonj is making, or are you inextricably linking free market capitalism with bullying and sexual objectification of women?

Why would you not think it relevant? Or do you think that only the Left have a moral high ground?
 
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Back to the Daily Mail. I have just completed some refresher training on Safeguarding in schools. In the section on how cultures get established that enable abuse, there was a list of examples of things that we might feel are acceptable but ought to be challenging. One of them was having adult porn on a phone. I would want to ask: should accessing the Daily Mail website be treated similarly? It seems to me to indicate a similar objectification and dehumanisation of other people.
Anything else you don't like or doesn't fit your political views that you want to censor?
PS all porn is adult porn.
 
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