Dawes with disk brakes
- Thread starter Wardy
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Glenn
Veteran
- Location
- Newport, shropshire
Only if the UCI approve them for road racing
Milzy
Guru
Are the same reasons for not approving them listed in the link above? It would massively change most road bikes for sale if they did change I'd have thought.
vernon
Harder than Ronnie Pickering
- Location
- Meanwood, Leeds
If you are making a choice between V brakes and cantilevers, go fo V brakes. They are far more effective than any cantilever set up that I have used over the past ten years.
Mad Doug Biker
I prefer animals to most people.
- Location
- Craggy Island
It always seems to me that if you are doing something seriously long distance and hardcore, and if you can, fit both disk and rim brakes, with say, some suicide levers on the handlebars along with the normal brake levers. It might look a bit daft, but hey, if one set fails, you will still have another as back up, and if you are in the middle of where, nobody will be laughing at you then, will they?!
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Crankarm
Guru
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
Disc brakes are pretty reliable. I wouldn't bother fitting anything else. Disk brakes I have no experience of.
puch
Regular
Thanks for the welcome advice. Noted & filed. BTW, I assume V brakes = Linear Pull Brakes.
vernon
Harder than Ronnie Pickering
- Location
- Meanwood, Leeds
Nigeyy
Legendary Member
- Location
- Massachusetts, USA
Oh no not this old chestnut again.....
For full disclosure, my touring bike has BB7 road brakes. And yes, I do love them. However.... pretty much any good quality well setup common brake system will work (think about this, how long have people been touring?). I put discs* on my tourer as I liked the idea of not wearing the rims down, not heating rims on a descent, more predictability in the wet, modulation, etc. Truth be told though, v-brakes and cantis are fine brake systems (again, assuming good quality pads, well setup, well maintained, blah, blah, etc, etc) and each brake system has its advantages and disadvantages. FWIW, one of my favourite braking systems is a canti setup -the power and modulation is just outstanding! If I was building a touring bike again, I don't think I'd bother with discs -but I also certainly won't be taking them off my tourer anytime soon either.
If you are on a budget, I'd say save your money as disc specific hubs, possibly brake levers and the brakes themselves can easily be costly compared to more traditional rim brakes. And good rim brakes will work just fine -as many people can attest to.
*when this discussion comes up, I frequently hear the negatives of disc brakes that I find, quite frankly, to be -in my opinion -more grounded in the areas of trying to win an argument rather than reality. More complex? Yes. So are derailleurs and geared hubs -would you not use those? Reliability? I've had first hand experience of more trouble with rim brakes than discs.... Dished wheels less strong? I'm sure theoretically yes, but any good quality well built wheel -even dished for discs -should be fine. I don't see too many mtbers with disc wheels afraid of doing big jumps for fears of weakened wheels
Problem getting spares for disc brakes in Outer Mongolia? Yes, absolutely. But try to find a v-brake as well! (not to mention *most* people don't tour in really remote places.) Don't get me wrong, disc brakes do have their downsides (e.g. if you have a rear disc brake outside the seat stay you'll need a disc specific rack, there are less choices of brakes and levers for drop handlebars, less bang for the buck than their rim counterparts, less likelihood of finding spares in remote places, etc) but I do think some of the oft quoted negatives are just unrealistic and misleading in the big picture.
For full disclosure, my touring bike has BB7 road brakes. And yes, I do love them. However.... pretty much any good quality well setup common brake system will work (think about this, how long have people been touring?). I put discs* on my tourer as I liked the idea of not wearing the rims down, not heating rims on a descent, more predictability in the wet, modulation, etc. Truth be told though, v-brakes and cantis are fine brake systems (again, assuming good quality pads, well setup, well maintained, blah, blah, etc, etc) and each brake system has its advantages and disadvantages. FWIW, one of my favourite braking systems is a canti setup -the power and modulation is just outstanding! If I was building a touring bike again, I don't think I'd bother with discs -but I also certainly won't be taking them off my tourer anytime soon either.
If you are on a budget, I'd say save your money as disc specific hubs, possibly brake levers and the brakes themselves can easily be costly compared to more traditional rim brakes. And good rim brakes will work just fine -as many people can attest to.
*when this discussion comes up, I frequently hear the negatives of disc brakes that I find, quite frankly, to be -in my opinion -more grounded in the areas of trying to win an argument rather than reality. More complex? Yes. So are derailleurs and geared hubs -would you not use those? Reliability? I've had first hand experience of more trouble with rim brakes than discs.... Dished wheels less strong? I'm sure theoretically yes, but any good quality well built wheel -even dished for discs -should be fine. I don't see too many mtbers with disc wheels afraid of doing big jumps for fears of weakened wheels
Problem getting spares for disc brakes in Outer Mongolia? Yes, absolutely. But try to find a v-brake as well! (not to mention *most* people don't tour in really remote places.) Don't get me wrong, disc brakes do have their downsides (e.g. if you have a rear disc brake outside the seat stay you'll need a disc specific rack, there are less choices of brakes and levers for drop handlebars, less bang for the buck than their rim counterparts, less likelihood of finding spares in remote places, etc) but I do think some of the oft quoted negatives are just unrealistic and misleading in the big picture.
- Location
- London
Interesting well balanced post - thanks. My cantis stopped me fine and sharp (the back of the bike flipped up off the road) when I had to do a sudden stop yesterday when a driver did a barmy U turn at a junction. (* NB - I'm not dissing disc brakes or any other type)
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