Deaths when not using helmet

[benb]

So taking off the helmet and making them a less confident rider would make them safer. Interesting. Especially when you consider how unlikely they were to have a head injury before this action. Wonder how likely they would be after ?

You do understand what overconfidence is, right?

 

[lukesdad]

Yes and I understand confident and I understand nervous too.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

If you look at the manufacturers claims, they barely claim anything. Cycle helmets are not sold to protect against significant collisions, yet some people still believe and claim that they protect against that.

That is not what I asked. I believe they claim to protect the head in accidents up to 12 mph. I ask again has anyone ever sued a manufacturer? Just think what a culture of suing the USA has.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

That is not what I asked. I believe they claim to protect the head in accidents up to 12 mph. I ask again has anyone ever sued a manufacturer? Just think what a culture of suing the USA has.

You might believe that, but I bet you a pint you are wrong! They claim that their products are stylish, that theycomply with x standards, they proclaim choice of colours but go and find a claim of how effective they are...

 

[lukesdad]

Yes and I understand confident and I understand nervous too.

If the removing of the helmet reduced an over confident rider to a confident rider all well and good but, what if it reduced a confident rider to a nervous one not so good.

 

[Bicycle]

It is simple -unless you are pro helmet you are the Antichrist, the logic goes like this:

Poster 2: The British Dental Association is campaigning for more facial protection as present hamlets are inadequate.

I lived in a hamlet for a number of years in the mid-90s and suffered no facial injuries.

I found the absence of a decent supermarket inconvenient, but had no issue with facial protection.

What do the BDA have against hamlets?

We should be told!!

 

[Angelfishsolo]

You might believe that, but I bet you a pint you are wrong! They claim that their products are stylish, that theycomply with x standards, they proclaim choice of colours but go and find a claim of how effective they are...

If they comply with even the lowly BS EN 1078 then injuries received within the standards parameters would warrant a law suit.

 

[Theseus]

If they comply with even the lowly BS EN 1078 then injuries received within the standards parameters would warrant a law suit.

Then it would need to be a suit against the makers of the standard, not the makers of the helmet.

 

[Theseus]

I lived in a hamlet for a number of years in the mid-90s and suffered no facial injuries.

I found the absence of a decent supermarket inconvenient, but had no issue with facial protection.

What do the BDA have against hamlets?

We should be told!!

hamlets = cigars = bad teeth ... simple

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Then it would need to be a suit against the makers of the standard, not the makers of the helmet.

Why? If your BMW fails to protect you to its' NCAP rating do you sue BMW or NCAP?

 

[twobiker]

Why? If your BMW fails to protect you to its' NCAP rating do you sue BMW or NCAP?

You would have the devils own job getting the proof, how do you prove how fast you were going etc.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

You would have the devils own job getting the proof, how do you prove how fast you were going etc.

Lets say a side impact whilst stationary.

 

[twobiker]

Lets say a side impact whilst stationary.

You should have the law on your side if stationary ,and in the correct road position of course, and would claim off the other driver.but I expect someone will say otherwise.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

If they comply with even the lowly BS EN 1078 then injuries received within the standards parameters would warrant a law suit.

Does that mean you can't find a helmet company making the claims, and do owe me a pint?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

You should have the law on your side if stationary ,and in the correct road position of course, and would claim off the other driver.but I expect someone will say otherwise.

You miss the point. The question was "if the car fails to protect you in the way it should based on NCAP rating". So do you sue NCAP for giving the car an incorrect rating or BMW for building a dud?