Deaths when not using helmet

[Angelfishsolo]

Does that mean you can't find a helmet company making the claims, and do owe me a pint?

By definition a helmet that meets the BS standard is implicitly making that claim.

 

[twobiker]

You miss the point. The question was "if the car fails to protect you in the way it should based on NCAP rating". So do you sue NCAP for giving the car an incorrect rating or BMW for building a dud?

Having read their disclaimer, best of luck trying to sue.

 

[ufkacbln]

If you bang your head against a brick wall and it doesn't hurt you may have some underlying medical condition, or you may just be to drunk. plus what sort of deity would stop you banging your head but would let you get squished helmet and all by a cement truck?.

Deities work in mysterious ways!

 

[ufkacbln]

I think they could possibly have a small protective effect in some very limited situations - basically a stationary fall onto the head.
The risk of this happening is the same or lower as a pedestrian - absolutely tiny.
They are of absolutely no use at higher energy collisions.

So they are not worth wearing, for all of the negative effects we have already gone though.

The problem is that often we don't see the woods because they are obscured by the trees.

The concentration on helmets as an answer misdirects the efforts from areas that could be far more effective in reducing injuries (of all types) to cyclists.

The Australian compulsion is actually a very useful example.

Profesor Rissel from the University of Sidney has collated annual hospital data for head injuries resulting from cycling accidents from 1988 to 2008 and reported that :

"The most marked decrease in injuries occurred before mandatory helmet wearing was introduced in 1991.

Subsequent reductions in head injuries have occurred at a much lower rate and are not of the magnitude you'd expect from making all cyclists wear a helmet.’’

"The findings suggested the greatest reductions in head injuries resulting from cycling accidents came from improved road safety measures introduced before 1991 including lower speed limits, random breath testing and advertising"

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

By definition a helmet that meets the BS standard is implicitly making that claim.

No luck finding a helmet claim then?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

No luck finding a helmet claim then?

Haven't given it a moment of my time. Am not interested in the slightest TBH.

 

[Red Light]

Haven't given it a moment of my time. Am not interested in the slightest TBH.

Interested enough to argue for some long time but not interested enough to continue when the going gets difficult eh?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Interested enough to argue for some long time but not interested enough to continue when the going gets difficult eh?

Whatever you want to believe. It can only be belief as you have no proof

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Haven't given it a moment of my time. Am not interested in the slightest TBH.

I'll have a pint of SA then please!

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Whatever you want to believe. It can only be belief as you have no proof

A hit! A very palpable hit!

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I'll have a pint of SA then please!

Absence of proof is not proof of absence. However you already know that. You must be desperate for a drink.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Absence of proof is not proof of absence. However you already know that. You must be desperate for a drink.

Hey the bet was that you couldn't find the claim, it's not my fault you couldn't be bothered to try !

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Hey the bet was that you couldn't find the claim, it's not my fault you couldn't be bothered to try !

A bet has to be accepted but then you know that as well don't you.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

A bet has to be accepted but then you know that as well don't you.

No problem, I will buy my own pint, if you want the live with the eternal , crushing shame of welching , far be it from me to remind you, tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, next week , month year d,ecade...

 

[Angelfishsolo]

No problem, I will buy my own pint, if you want the live with the eternal , crushing shame of welching , far be it from me to remind you, tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, next week , month year d,ecade...

Whatever turns you on old boy.