Dieppe to Nice, my trip

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maurice

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Location
Surrey
Hi, I did my first bicycle tour end of June into July and this is how it went. I took quite a bit of advice/inspiration from this forum.


With some persuasion I got my manager to agree to three weeks off work and recruited a mate from uni, Chris, so we were good to go.

Plan: Cycle from the English Channel - Dieppe, to Nice, then fly back.

We got off to a fairly iffy start when after 15 miles and having stopped for lunch, my rear tyre exploded sending a couple of locals ducking for cover. This was Dieppe not Dunkerque! The cheap Chinese inner tube seemed to have got too hot in the sun and blew off the rim fairly spectacularly. Not going to get a patch on this one...

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Stopping off at a fruit stall for a couple apples, the owner asked where we were going. I told him and he gave us the apples for free “my present”!

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The next day we were off to Paris. It was an absolute nightmare riding in on a bicycle, it's really hard to avoid dual carriageways and motorways. Did 72 miles before we found the F1 I pre-booked. This was the only hotel we booked in advance the whole tour. I was expecting a problem with bicycle parking and was intending to put the bikes in our room. Walking in to see a huge security guard I thought put paid to that! The receptionist was cool though and even suggested putting the bikes in our room, allocating us a disabled room so it had more floor space. We never once had to lock bikes outside the whole tour, always a place to put them.

Using the metro we got down to the Eiffel Tower late to see a huge queue for the lift, our legs could really have done without using the stairs, doh.

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Paris was even harder to get out of, we had to keep at least 20mph up to survive, these speeds over cobblestones were producing heavy vibration and my pannier rack promptly half fell off. Luckily one of my bottle cage bolts was the correct pitch to replace the rack bolt that had departed company. Later went through a forest that was holding a mass rollerblading time trial, weird.

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Entering Burgundy it got started warming up and the terrain became more rolling. You rode slowly up a hill, blasted down the other side at 35mph and repeated, hardly any flat at all.

Over a glass of red in a cafe I “accidentally” got into a political conversation with a friendly old French guy, couldn't understand much put there was plenty of Bush, Blair and Iraq references. Nothing nasty, they just love passing the time chatting politics here.

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They like their red wine in middle France, often we were asked not whether we wanted a drink with our meal, but do we want red wine. It was good too, I got quite attached to the fuller-bodied stuff. We had to eat a lot of food too, doing this sort of distance a day you consume something like 5000 calories just cycling, so big breakfasts and two three-course meals became the norm. The wine helped supplement calories intake too. (Even though we ate so much I still lost 11 pounds of weight over two weeks).

Throughout one day we kept overtaking and getting re-overtaken by a French cyclist, eventually we chatted and found out he was riding Paris-Nice! Quickly a three-man peleton was formed and raced into town to complete our longest day of the trip at 73 miles.

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After Roanne we started hitting parts of the Massif Central. It was very pleasant, like a mini-Alps.

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Heading toward Saint Etienne, Chris had a major mechanical, one rear spoke snapped and others hanging loose. With the luggage weight all centred over the back this was quite alarming. We were up in the mountains and far away from easy help, if the wheel did go terminal it would be a long walk to a bike shop. I called my Mum asking her to get on the net and check if there was a nearby Decathlon (chain of French sports shops that stock bike bits). There was one in Saint Etienne so we pressed on carefully after re-trueing Chris's wheel as best as possible.

Arriving at the shop, despite being extremely busy, they fixed the wheel immediately and for just 8 euros. Then we had a day off to rest our aching backsides. It had taken us 7 days to get here, around 2/3 of the way down France, so looking good we decided to cross the Alps.

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The first day climbing into the Alps was absolutely brutal, physically hardest thing I've ever done. Climbing the Col de Grenoille, probably French for 'hill that kills people', you can see the view from the picture above. We had come from that flat bit in the distance, and we were only halfway up at this point. Climbed from almost sea level to 1145m with no let up, I pretty much cracked as I went over the top, limit breached. Once we were in the scenary was so stunning I didn't really care, just kept stopping every few hundred metres of climbing.

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The type of riding really changes here, you spend hours crawling along uphill, then get a descent that lasts a couple minutes but sees you regularly hitting 40mph. Without panniers it would have been a lot faster, they were acting as an airbrake. Descending like this is just like riding a motorbike, having to really apex the corners, crank it over for hairpins, just without any protective gear. Wearing helmets wasn't really an option on climbs, often we were too lazy to refit them just for a couple minutes of downhill. They added drag too, I got my maximum of 41.1mph without a lid.

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The road in the above picture took about half an hour to ride down going flat out.

Over the next couple days we had some flatter roads in the valleys, but instead of being easy we were going into a strong head wind all the way. Got rained on for the first time too, there was a brief but spectacular thunderstorm with lightening hitting all around, sending puffs of smoke off the hills where it had touched down. It was localised so was able to out-run the rain fairly quickly, the bikes were really fast, the lesser rolling resistance on slick wet roads increases your speed by an easy 3-4mph; we were knocking on 20mph no trouble.

Could really feel our legs getting better now too. One morning a local French cyclist pulled out in front of us on a posh full carbon road bike, putting the hammer down up into the mid-twenties for a bit we easily passed and dropped him, loaded panniers n' all!

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The last big challenge was the N85, Route Napoleon. Starting the day from Digne the weather was beautiful but hot. Fairly flattish to begin with we soon started getting hit by a succession of Cols. Chris started by having a bit of an off-day, but managed to get it back together towards the end.

Had a bit of hassle from a cafe owner at lunch, who was making a scene objecting to me leaning my bike against a tree so I could see it while eating. Easy solution, leave and go to the next cafe ten minutes down the hill. The sets of downhill hairpins on the N85 were quite fun as we could easily keep up with the cars. More often they slowed us up, contemplated overtaking a few before sense got the better of me.

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After 50 miles we started looking for a hotel, but they were all either full or closed. It was getting quite frustrating as whenever one was full etc we had to ride over another mountain. Getting late but still very warm, eventually 68 miles after starting we pulled up late into St. Vallier, just North of Grasse and finally got a room.

With the Alps all but over, next day we rode 25 miles downhill to the Mediterranean and got ourselves a hotel for some lazy time on the beach; we were a week early for our flight. Total of 803 miles, average 51 miles per day.

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Scoosh

Velocouchiste
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Edinburgh
maurice,
Wow ! what a great trip and a top rate report too, if may say so. :biggrin:

The photos are inspiring and daunting at the same time :thumbsup:

Thank you for sharing it.
 

Bigtallfatbloke

New Member
most excellent! wow..great trip & pics...!
CanI ask if you speak french?
My french extends to Bonjour je n parle pas francais parlez vous rost bouef?

I have itchy legs already after the German ride in July so I am planning a similar route across france....might even do it next week as well if the stars line up right etc...

which maps did you use? Were you camping? Did you ride on any 'Green' roads or did you stick to the yellow and white roads?

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maurice

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Location
Surrey
Thanks! It was a really enjoyable trip.

Bigtallfatbloke, I can sort of speak limited 'holiday French', can get by ordering meals, getting hotels and some limited conversation. I practiced with some linguaphone cd's before I went which were better than I expected. A phrasebook is still a necessity though!

For maps I took a Michelin France car atlas, the type slightly bigger than A4 that is a ring-binder. I carefully ripped the map pages as I needed them and put them in my cheap-but-good couple quid decathlon map holder.

We tried to stick to yellow and white roads but it's not possible all the time. Bigger roads are often a necessary evil if you have to go in a certain direction (and hard to stay away from anywhere near Paris). Use them to link up the sections of beautiful rural routes and it's pretty good.

We stuck to hotelling as we had a lightweight theme, both of us had out and out road bikes, mine a Specialized Allez, Chris a Giant SCR, so couldn't carry much more load!
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
A cracking ride report. I'd do something similar if I could get around to shedding 1/3 of my body weight ;).

Glad you enjoyed the red wine. I was getting through a litre every 100km on average on my ride through France last year.
 

Bigtallfatbloke

New Member
Bigtallfatbloke, I can sort of speak limited 'holiday French', can get by ordering meals, getting hotels and some limited conversation. I practiced with some linguaphone cd's before I went which were better than I expected. A phrasebook is still a necessity though!

For maps I took a Michelin France car atlas, the type slightly bigger than A4 that is a ring-binder. I carefully ripped the map pages as I needed them and put them in my cheap-but-good couple quid decathlon map holder.

We tried to stick to yellow and white roads but it's not possible all the time. Bigger roads are often a necessary evil if you have to go in a certain direction (and hard to stay away from anywhere near Paris). Use them to link up the sections of beautiful rural routes and it's pretty good.

We stuck to hotelling as we had a lightweight theme, both of us had out and out road bikes, mine a Specialized Allez, Chris a Giant SCR, so couldn't carry much more load!

Yeah i may have to bone up on some basic phrases, I will take a sheet of ready translated useful phrases with me so i can also point if all else fails!

Which route did you use to navigate around Lyon?

I am thinking of going around to the east...down from Macon>Chatillon sur charlaronne>montluel >crossing the river at Jons>past the airport> west to Vienne then just follow the rhone down to the coast. I really dont want to go through it unless absolutly unavoidable.
 
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maurice

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Location
Surrey
We avoided Lyon by staying out West, came from Saint Etienne direction and cut across the top of the Central Massif so we ended up a fair bit lower than Lyon when we crossed the Rhone to head towards the Alps.

I think it's a good idea to avoid, the road layout doesn't look good for easy cycling.
 

jags

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well done lads looks like you had a blast,great pic's .
 
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maurice

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Surrey
Thanks!

Cathryn, that was looking South from the Col de Rousset, you can see here

It's just North of a town perhaps appropriately named "Die". It kept us amused for a good few hours saying "I am going to Die today". (the heat had gone to our heads a little)
 

Cathryn

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I THOUGHT it was!!! We climbed that in May and loved every second of the climb, wasn't it brilliant!! That was our favourite col. Your photo brought all the memories back.

We stayed in 'Die' and made similar jokes all day!!
 
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maurice

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Surrey
Wow, didn't expect someone here to have been up that Col, thought it was a bit out of the way! I think it was the most spectacular Col we did, certainly stands out. For us though it was a much-enjoyed descent! We had a nice lunch at the cafe at the bottom, went onto Die then continued on South.
 
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