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Discs or Vs?

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by Rykard, 11 Nov 2007.

  1. Rykard

    Rykard Über Member

    Hi,
    continuing from my other thread.. What brakes are recommended on a flat bat commuter? Discs or Vs?

    Cheers
    Rich
     
  2. bianco

    bianco New Member

    I think V's are all thats required, I use a road bike thats only got dual pivots and thats fine for me.

    The one thing I've done though is upgrade my pads to kool stop salmons. They rule in both dry and wet, so if you do go for V's, make sure you get kool stop pads.

    Martin
     
  3. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    Disks certainly wouldn't be anything like a top prioirty, but if I was putting together the 'ultimate' commuter, I think it would include some Hope hydraulic disks.

    If only because they don't get that grey brake crud stuff everywhere which you do with Vs in bad winter weather.
     
  4. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    Quality disk brakes absolutely rule - Hope hydros are sooooo good. I say this often but I cannot wait for manufacturers to get their fingers out and put hydraulic disks on roadbikes.

    Good quality cable disks are also very good, and I would still prefer them to v-brakes.
     
  5. gambatte

    gambatte Middle of the pack...

    Location:
    S Yorks
    Is there such a beast? found they try to occupy a central ground between Vs and Hydros that doesn't really exist. More of a gimmick than 'owt else.
     
  6. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    Hmm, well I ran an RST Disk-X for a long time, and found that to be superb. Obviously I put a pair of quality Aztec sintered pads on it, but that brake was top class (though a little fiddly to set up initially).
     
  7. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    isn't the reason road bikes don't have disk brakes because disk brakes are heavier? do you ever find yourself needing disk brakes on a road bike? :blush: (or wishing you did have them?)
     
  8. Peyote

    Peyote New Member

    It's a rarity for me to want disk brakes on my road bike, but it would save on the wear and tear on rims. I guess the braking maybe a bit better in wet weather too (though probably not that much).

    I think that as a general rule disk brakes are heavier, but you can get some incredibly lightweight systems these days, certainly ones to rival V-brakes, so I don't see why they shouldn't rival dual pivots too. Of course this is taking into account the weight savings that can be gained by using disk-specific rims too.

    edited to add - I don't think they are needed on a roadbike, but sometimes it would be nice!
     
  9. I would love to see discs on road bikes, you could use a substantially smaller, possibly alu disc, trouble is you would also require a substantial reinforcing of the lower fork or the addition of a long torque arm to stop the drop-outs being ripped off. They'll be along in the next couple of years I predict. Nice little aero calipers! Internal hose routing! You could really improve airflow where the side-pulls used to reside. Phoar
     
  10. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    Disk brake systems are slightly heavier, thats true, but a lightweight road system is not out of the bounds of possibility at all.

    One of the biggest stumbling blocks IMO (UCI excluded) is that people assume that disk brakes are these outrageously powerful brakes, better suited for stopping a train than bicycle. This is just not the case, many low end disks are not as powerful as v-brakes for example, and any fitted to a roadbike obviously would not be as powerful as those checking the progress of a DH bike.

    mickle, check this out - I have been drooling over this for a while now, hoping that it will become reality soon.
    http://www.canyon.com/_en/technology/project68.html
     
  11. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    If you're just commuting, disc brakes are an unnecessary, heavier, more expensive and fiddlier alternative.
     
  12. gambatte

    gambatte Middle of the pack...

    Location:
    S Yorks
    and makes your bike more attractive to thieves?
     
  13. Peyote

    Peyote New Member

    Oh I don't know. I've had more fiddling problems with all the rim brakes I've ever owned in comparison to the Deore Hydros on my MTB. Heavier, more expensive* and unneccesary, you're probably correct about though!

    *Although factoring in rim expense of rim braked commuters (I'm assuming all weathers) then a couple of years and I reckon they'd work out about the same price wise too.
     
  14. col

    col Veteran

    Im still not convinced that a disk as a back break is a benefit?
     
  15. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    How could a brake that is more controllable, with better feel that is more reliable, predicatable, and actually progressive not be a benefit?