Do industrial design students ever ride bikes?
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HJ
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Ben M said:
Sorry, for some reason I was thinking that Brunel University was in Bristol, not sure why
Lazy-Commuter
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I like the "when a manufacturer is found" bit in the article. Should that not be "if" ?
goo_mason
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Lazy-Commuter said:
Given that the article is now over two years old, I'd hazard a guess that they've been laughed out of the boardroom of every manufacturer they've approached !
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Didn't notice the date .. but sounds about right.goo_mason said:
Arch
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We covered a trailer design recently on the VV website - it was a foldable trailer, so when you didn't need to use it you folded it up and it sat... over your rack. Stopping you using panniers. So, you had plenty of carrying capacity, or none.
In the blurb, one of the student designers said "I don't cycle to college, but if I had this to carry things, I might..."
Mind you, I was once talking to a road design engineer who was telling me how he was so much more aware of cyclists' needs since he'd started cycling. Pity he'd been designing cycle lanes for years before that....
In the blurb, one of the student designers said "I don't cycle to college, but if I had this to carry things, I might..."
Mind you, I was once talking to a road design engineer who was telling me how he was so much more aware of cyclists' needs since he'd started cycling. Pity he'd been designing cycle lanes for years before that....
Arch
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marinyork said:
Very good!
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no, many industrial design students have no idea about the market they are designing for, you'll find that most companies will however go for students who show an interest in the industry they're applying to, eg giro will employ a graduate who's a cyclist over a none cyclist.
you get many transport design students who can't actually drive / have never driven designing cars you can't see over the dashboard - i remember sitting in a fellow student's interior mock up and being asked how it was
i'm 6ft 2 and could not see over the dashboard or see the door mirrors where he'd put them.
twas about a month before i walked off the course and switched to graphic design as i didn't want to be in the car industry.
you get many transport design students who can't actually drive / have never driven designing cars you can't see over the dashboard - i remember sitting in a fellow student's interior mock up and being asked how it was
i'm 6ft 2 and could not see over the dashboard or see the door mirrors where he'd put them.
twas about a month before i walked off the course and switched to graphic design as i didn't want to be in the car industry.
Yellow Fang
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It's only a final year or MSc project, and a pretty good one at that. It doesn't have to sell. If you can't be experimental and playful then, when can you?
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Yellow Fang said:
Surely even then they might have thought about the fact that breathing's all very well, but the cyclist needs to have good, unhindered vision. That's not too much to ask from supposedly intelligent people, is it ?
Arch
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Yellow Fang said:
Why would you produce a design that didn't (or wasn't likely to) sell? If you want to do that, take Art instead.
And whats the point of a degree, if you can say "oh, well, it's only a final year project". If you haven't mastered the basic principles of useability by the end of 3, maybe 4 years....
Industrial designers have been the bane of my life as a project manager. None of them have any concept or concern if what they come up with is either manufacturable or legal, all they want is to see marketing men wet themselves and collect the big pay cheque.
It is then up to proper engineers to try to make their designs work - although I say designs, its just dressing, and departs from the technical brief at the first opportunity, no thought to actually what has to make the thing perform. Then if you do have to modify their 'solution' in any way you are accused of destroying their concept and they flounce off in a huff.
With regard to the helmet, you have to have a positive seal arond the mouth to actually draw air through the filters, and with no seperation or articulation from the helmet part the thing is utterly unwearable. Then in the event of a collision will very effectivly break your nose, jawbone and teeth - brilliant.
It is then up to proper engineers to try to make their designs work - although I say designs, its just dressing, and departs from the technical brief at the first opportunity, no thought to actually what has to make the thing perform. Then if you do have to modify their 'solution' in any way you are accused of destroying their concept and they flounce off in a huff.
With regard to the helmet, you have to have a positive seal arond the mouth to actually draw air through the filters, and with no seperation or articulation from the helmet part the thing is utterly unwearable. Then in the event of a collision will very effectivly break your nose, jawbone and teeth - brilliant.
