Do you believe in fate / Karma.........

[Paul139]

Without doubt, yes.

 

[vernon]

Blind faith is the world's worst enemy, especially in Africa where religious fatalism is actually hindering development. Christians or Muslims are just as bad: my child dies through being given fake drugs in hospital? It's the will of God. My family was wiped out in a car crash? It's the will of God. A politician steals all the country's money? It's the will of God. It makes people passive and docile, which is what religion was invented to do, I suppose. We should fight it and take responsibility for what happens.

I'm Jewish so that theory doesn't apply to me.

 

[Tin Pot]

It makes people passive and docile, which is what religion was invented to do, I suppose.

<sigh>

 

[steve50]

Interesting answers, I think fate is whatever life has thrown at you as you go down lifes pathway be it good, bad or indifferent, we sometimes go off the straight and narrow and get into difficulties but eventually wander back onto the path and continue down the route of our lives. We contribute to our lifestyle along the way, some of us will become rich and do really well some of us will plod along comfortably and others will be poor but will benefit in other ways, be it happiness, family or friends.
Can we keep religion out of it please!

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

I'm Jewish so that theory doesn't apply to me.

Ain't that the truth my boy

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I have a feeling that a lot of people help themselves, certainly. To other peoples 'luck'. Then they generally insist this 'luck' is down to their hard work.

Actions, and intentions, in life have consequences. Those consequences can be dressed up as karma, if it helps you sleep at night. But it doesn't seem to even out in this life.

As to fate? Despite contemporary culture being obsessed with health, youth and beauty, and celebrity of course, and constantly trying to distract us from one uncomfortable fact; everyone dies in the end. It is as inevitable as it is inescapable.

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

No.

Oh - for goodness sake - make your mind up for once.

 

[Tin Pot]

Interesting answers, I think fate is whatever life has thrown at you as you go down lifes pathway be it good, bad or indifferent, we sometimes go off the straight and narrow and get into difficulties but eventually wander back onto the path and continue down the route of our lives. We contribute to our lifestyle along the way, some of us will become rich and do really well some of us will plod along comfortably and others will be poor but will benefit in other ways, be it happiness, family or friends.
Can we keep religion out of it please!

That's not what the word "fate" means though. It means that your life is predetermined for you.

 

[steve50]

I have a feeling that a lot of people help themselves, certainly. To other peoples 'luck'. Then they generally insist this 'luck' is down to their hard work.

Actions, and intentions, in life have consequences. Those consequences can be dressed up as karma, if it helps you sleep at night. But it doesn't seem to even out in this life.

As to fate? Despite contemporary culture being obsessed with health, youth and beauty, and celebrity of course, and constantly trying to distract us from one uncomfortable fact; everyone dies in the end. It is as inevitable as it is inescapable.

never a truer word spoken, bloody good answer!

 

[vernon]

Isn't Karma synonymous with "Don't get mad, get even?"

 

[steve50]

Traditional usage defines fate as a power or agency that predetermines and orders the course of events. Fate defines events as ordered or "inevitable" and unavoidable. It is a concept based on the belief that there is a fixed natural order to the universe, and in some conceptions, the cosmos.

That's not what the word "fate" means though. It means that your life is predetermined for you.

which is pretty much what I was trying to say in my answer, our path of life is predetermined, we will stray off the path and create a different one but inevitably we will wander back onto the predetermined path.

 

[nickyboy]

Of course not.

But in my youth, invoking the "fate" card when chatting up a girl often worked wonders

 

[Tin Pot]

Traditional usage defines fate as a power or agency that predetermines and orders the course of events. Fate defines events as ordered or "inevitable" and unavoidable. It is a concept based on the belief that there is a fixed natural order to the universe, and in some conceptions, the cosmos.



which is pretty much what I was trying to say in my answer, our path of life is predetermined, we will stray off the path and create a different one but inevitably we will wander back onto the predetermined path.

So you think that key events, or the end game in life are predetermined, though you can provide some self-determination, you can't stop these key things from happening?

I wouldn't agree with that, either.

Essentially people have real difficulty with probability. They just don't get that things have a likelihood of happening. You do something to the best of your ability, and it has a chance of succeeding. That chance may be high or low. This is true regardless of the outcome. However, people take the outcome and use that to describe causality - it was never going to happen, I knew I could do it, I have bad luck, it was karma, it was fate.

Those people are wrong. They just can't handle the concept of a probabilistic universe.

And they are crap at poker.

 

[slowmotion]

I believe in Keyser Soze.

 

[Smokin Joe]

This is everybody's fate -