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Brains

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I like the idea of Sean Bean, or how about the other Sean (Connery) ?
I think the Doctor should be a grey haired elder gentleman with a bit of menace.
No jokes or wisecracks, that is what the glamorous assistant is for ( and Clara is the hottest totty that there has been since the 1980's)

I agree about the time, why is it on at 8pm on a Saturday night ????
It should be 4-6pm on a Saturday or even same time on a Sunday
By the time it's finished at 9pm it's way past the bedtime of the intended audience, and anyone aged over 15 and under 35 will be out on the lash at that time.
You need to catch them young, so if it's unwatchable by the 8 years old's they you are dooming the show to a slow end.

As for Darleks and Cybermen - I'm all for bringing them back, say once in 3 years, but once a season is overkill
 

LCpl Boiled Egg

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Now that Peep Show is ending, how about Matt King (Super Hans)?
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
The main problem with Moffat's stories is... the Doctor seems to be increasingly using time travel as a way to solve the problem. I know this is obvious since he is a time lord... but it never used to be as simple as "oh i just went back in time and changed things" ...it's just lazy writing and that's what really let down the underwater ghosts story.
You may be missing the point with the underwater ghost story. It was all about a time travel paradox, the bootstrap paradox, which also was the driving narrative behind the original Planet of the Apes films. In this story, the Doctor is the cause of it all, it just depends where in the loop you arrive:blush:.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
You may be missing the point with the underwater ghost story. It was all about a time travel paradox, the bootstrap paradox, which also was the driving narrative behind the original Planet of the Apes films. In this story, the Doctor is the cause of it all, it just depends where in the loop you arrive:blush:.
Not missing 'the point' at all. it's a trick they use all too often these days on Dr Who. Ohh how's he going to get out of this one??? Ahhh, he's got a time machine hasn't he! The ghost story is just the latest application of this lazy writing 'trick'.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Not missing 'the point' at all. it's a trick they use all too often these days on Dr Who. Ohh how's he going to get out of this one??? Ahhh, he's got a time machine hasn't he! The ghost story is just the latest application of this lazy writing 'trick'.

whilst I agree they have to be very sparing with this, it was cleverly done with the ghost one, and they always constrain it with "fixed point in time" or even the wonderfull "blimovitch limitation effect" to retain some tension.

For the geeks one of my favourites was Pertwee's Day of the Daleks where future resistance fighters are coming back in time to change events which led to the Dalek invasion. A cracking storey
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
whilst I agree they have to be very sparing with this, it was cleverly done with the ghost one, and they always constrain it with "fixed point in time" or even the wonderfull "blimovitch limitation effect" to retain some tension.

For the geeks one of my favourites was Pertwee's Day of the Daleks where future resistance fighters are coming back in time to change events which led to the Dalek invasion. A cracking storey

In the ghost story, he tried to get away in the Tardis, but ended up going back 30 minutes. Being a living entity, the Tardis knew it was a paradox and so I don't think he could just use his good old time machine to save the day.

I watched Day of the Daleks recently as I was only about 7 the first time!. The resistance fighters come back in time to kill a politician they blame for creating their dystopian future only to have the Doctor point out that it's their time -travelling that causes the dystopian future in the first place. It's the bootstrap paradox again. It's worth noting that Dr Who did it over a decade before Terminator. But then again, it's an old, old sci-fi idea. Thinking about it, the underwater ghost story is the modern version of Day of the Daleks by dealing with the same causal loop paradox.

I enjoyed the Zygon story and the geek in me spotted the nice references to Harry Sullivan, played by the late Ian Marter during Tom Bakers first season - he was the 'naval officer on attachment to UNIT' that Kate Stewart mentioned and in the second story, referenced with 'The Sullivan gas' and also a slightly more obscure one, 'release the imbeciles gas' (The Doctor called him an imbecile in Revenge of the Cybermen).
 

LCpl Boiled Egg

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[QUOTE 3999441, member: 45"]Doctor Who is rubbish now. There's no action, just lots of pretentious talking and music.

If it wasn't for Clara they'd have lost a viewer.[/QUOTE]

You haven't got many more episodes left to watch then...
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
I thought tonight's was great - a "twilight zone" type horror story from Mark Gatiss. Maybe a bit too much stead-cam, but different episodes in different styles is much better than planet of the week in my view
 

gavgav

Legendary Member
I thought tonight's was great - a "twilight zone" type horror story from Mark Gatiss. Maybe a bit too much stead-cam, but different episodes in different styles is much better than planet of the week in my view
And I hated it. Didn't think the story went anywhere and made no sense to my simple mind. Worst of the current series for me.

To me, this is why Dr Who is so successful though, in that it appeals to such a wide audience that for every person who doesn't like an episode there will be another who does.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
[QUOTE 3999441, member: 45"]Doctor Who is rubbish now. There's no action, just lots of pretentious talking and music.

If it wasn't for Clara they'd have lost a viewer.[/QUOTE]
Really? REALLY?
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
And I hated it. Didn't think the story went anywhere and made no sense to my simple mind. Worst of the current series for me.

To me, this is why Dr Who is so successful though, in that it appeals to such a wide audience that for every person who doesn't like an episode there will be another who does.

But that said, I think it's great they tried to do something different dramatically / narratively, maybe not wholly successfully, though I enjoyed it. OK, the "plot" as such didn't really make sense, but perhaps that doesn't matter much, as it was at least partly narrated by someone else who was trying to mislead. "blink", one of the best ever in my view had similar ambition
 
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