Does anyone in CC land work for an MOT garage?

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subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Unless you need a new exhaust gas recirculation valve (I think that's what it was called) at a cost of £800 fitted. And the engine management system won't let you drive around at anything much more than a crawl until it's fixed, so you can't just ignore it.

And with the prospect of having to have your engine meddled with sometime this year because VW are a bunch of cheating gits.

DAMHIKT
Skoda Octavia 51 plate EGR valve £ 50 fitted 1 hr labour , diagnosing the fault took a day - because the electronics were seeing it as functioning. it was only the technician looking at the thing and seeing it blocked shut and going aaah .

never trust the OBDII
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
10 plate - so a newer version?
Did a bit of looking up first and the price I paid seemed reasonable - and it worked fine after they changed it. Have no reason to doubt the garage.
 

RichardB

Slightly retro
Location
West Wales
[QUOTE 4105853, member: 9609"]Diesel engines are becoming stupidly complex, I read recently the new Scania euro6 engine has quarter of a ton of anti pollution technology attached to it,[/QUOTE]
Wow. And most people report that diesels are getting less economical with all the emissions stuff. So they are throwing out less pollution per litre burned, but they are burning more litres. Back to square one.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Yep. Imagine going jogging with a bag over your head and a sock in your mouth - it ain't going to help your efficiency or performance.

It's been a decade or more heading up a developmental dead end, when the investment might have been better served trying to understand the combustion process better and developing engines that are fundamentally more efficient.
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
Hydrogen engine..but while oil is the curency...its going to be tough @Drago

i watched a program on hydrogen cell car..toyota i think..its brilliant but 65k to buy..
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Yep. Imagine going jogging with a bag over your head and a sock in your mouth - it ain't going to help your efficiency or performance.

It's been a decade or more heading up a developmental dead end, when the investment might have been better served trying to understand the combustion process better and developing engines that are fundamentally more efficient.
Like this one


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0uPmrSRM7w&feature=player_detailpage


Lets hope it goes into production.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Hydrogen engine..but while oil is the curency...its going to be tough @Drago

i watched a program on hydrogen cell car..toyota i think..its brilliant but 65k to buy..

yebbut how do you make your hydrogen ? Dare I say by burning coal. Hydrogen, in this context isn't a fuel, it's a way of transporting energy from a power station to a vehicle. It is pretty moot that it'd be any better environmentally than burning the fuel at the point of use instead - not plutonium or coal I guess.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Indeed. Hydrogen and electric, the current state of affairs, is simply moving the problem from tailpipe to power station. Add in the environmental cost of building such vehicles over conventional cars and it becomes a developmental dead end at least for now.

The biggest improvement in car emissions would be a cultural change where it isn't acceptable to drive children a mile to school, or drive to the corner shop for a paper. All society is doing is raising another generation of largely lazy and needlessly car dependent people, who would only go on to use electric and hydrogen cars to such a selfish degree.

I have never driven a child to school and was never driven in my life. I live 0.27 miles from the school gate, yet people down my street drive there and back twice a day. Stopping this sort of selfish behaviour will do far more for air quality than DPFs or Cats ever will.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Indeed. Hydrogen and electric, the current state of affairs, is simply moving the problem from tailpipe to power station. Add in the environmental cost of building such vehicles over conventional cars and it becomes a developmental dead end at least for now.

The biggest improvement in car emissions would be a cultural change where it isn't acceptable to drive children a mile to school, or drive to the corner shop for a paper. All society is doing is raising another generation of largely lazy and needlessly car dependent people, who would only go on to use electric and hydrogen cars to such a selfish degree.

I have never driven a child to school and was never driven in my life. I live 0.27 miles from the school gate, yet people down my street drive there and back twice a day. Stopping this sort of selfish behaviour will do far more for air quality than DPFs or Cats ever will.


Spot on !

Another thing is that these days people travel far further to work that they (we) used to. Moving is expensive, jobs are not long term, so the long commute, however costly (cash and time and environment) we still end up doing it. I spent the last 5 years cycle commuting in Bristol - brilliant - sometimes didn't use the car for a fortnight. Now I work in Slough so have a 100 miles each way (stay up there mid-week) - but it's short term (and Slough versus Bristol) so I won't be moving -so now I'm once again part of the problem. Dunno what the answer is really. Better telecomms has somewhat reduced the need to travel as much, but conversely, people do choose to live out the in a village and do 40 mile commutes, then justify all the travel and bemoan the price of petrol because people in the country need to travel further - just like I do working away from home (I don't moan about it, but still do it)
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
Its does explain why the obeasity levels are so high in this country
I live next to a school..grid lock twice a day and its a no through road ..:banghead:
 
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