Dont give to charity.

[Markymark]

I think charities need to be run like businesses to get the most benefit for the shareholders/recipients. If you want a national charity to succeed, you need infrastructure and a decent management which will only come if you pay enough.

What I believe is the biggest waste is multiple charities for the same group. Businesses thrive by consolidating, there's even the Competition Commission to stop this. Quite why we need, for example, 10 charities for injured armed services when if there's were 1 or 2, it would make more 'profit' by reducing the amount of admin needed.

 

[Spinney]

I can see some point in it. There are lots of different charities helping out in the developing world, for example. With different slants that might appeal to different groups of donors. e.g. the ones that help people help themselves by facilitating well building and the like, some that educate women so they can run their own businesses etc, the ones that sponsor a child (although these days it is more like sponsoring the village or local area).

And some appeal to different groups for other reasons. As an atheist I'm not going to contribute to Cafod or Christian Aid, but luckily there are organisations like ActionAid (whose boss had a relatively low salary in that article), Oxfam etc.

 

[asterix]

Charities doing difficult tasks in difficult and complex situations will necessarily need complex management structures. Unless folk actually want them to fail at what they do...

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So really they are like the banking industry. I expect their top performers will also be in line for hefty bonuses too.

It is all about 'rolling back the frontiers of the state'. Countries such as France and Germany have far less dependence on charitable donations since the state performs many of the functions that have been handed out to charities in the USA and UK.

Where reliance is placed on 'market forces' then success depends on there being an easy and reliable yardstick for assessing the performance of each charity. I'm not aware of such a thing. The main criterion for supporting a charity is an emotional one.

What I believe is the biggest waste is multiple charities for the same group. Businesses thrive by consolidating, there's even the Competition Commission to stop this. Quite why we need, for example, 10 charities for injured armed services when if there's were 1 or 2, it would make more 'profit' by reducing the amount of admin needed.

That runs counter to the proposition that competition is a good way of getting the job done efficiently, the very reason for taking the function away from government and handing it to the private sector. You'll be telling us that you are a pinko leftie socialist next and as we all know, they are very evil, misguided people who in a less civilised country would be put up against a wall and shot.*


* Note to thought-police: That do you?

 

[Markymark]

That runs counter to the proposition that competition is a good way of getting the job done efficiently, the very reason for taking the function away from government and handing it to the private sector. You'll be telling us that you are a pinko leftie socialist next and as we all know, they are very evil, misguided people who in a less civilised country would be put up against a wall and shot.*


* Note to thought-police: That do you?

Would love to reply but cannot be bothered to read what has become a cartoon of characters.

 

[Spinney]

It's only his first sentence that is worth reading.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

So really they are like the banking industry. I expect their top performers will also be in line for hefty bonuses too.

What do you think is a fair level of compensation for the CEO of a global complex organisation whose turnover is increasing year on year and which stands at, say, the following levels?

$5 million
$50million
$100 million
$150 million

 

[Markymark]

Not up to me....let the market decide.

 

[asterix]

What do you think is a fair level of compensation for the CEO of a global complex organisation whose turnover is increasing year on year and which stands at, say, the following levels?

$5 million
$50million
$100 million
$150 million

It is more a question of the disparity between their remuneration and that of their workforce. What do you think is a fair multiple of the average worker's pay that the CEO should receive?

 

[asterix]

Would love to reply but cannot be bothered to read what has become a cartoon of characters.

That's fine by me, it wasn't meant to be taken in the least seriously, I was just passing the time before doing something useful.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

It is more a question of the disparity between their remuneration and that of their workforce. What do you think is a fair multiple of the average worker's pay that the CEO should receive?

Isn't it rather more about what you think that multiple is? I know what the multiple of CEO pay against mean and median and lowest salaries are at my workplace and I know what they were (excluding bonuses etc) at my two previous commercial billets. The charity one isn't even in the same ballpark as the others.

EDIT: AFLCIO* say avg UK commercial sector CEO earns nearly $4 million vs avg worker in their company earns $45k. You do the maths.

*Average United Kingdom CEO pay amounts are calculated in U.S. dollars based on 2012 or 2011 CEO pay levels for companies from the FTSE 100 available in the S&P Capital IQ database. CEO-to-worker pay ratios for United Kingdom are calculated using 2011 average annual wages in U.S. dollars as reported by the OECD.Stat database.

 

[Onthedrops]

Many charities are worth donating to. Personally I'm fed up of the constant tin rattling and telly adverts. (takes a few donations to put a TV advert together)
I firmly believe that charity begins at home and only give to British charities, mainly children's charities and Help for Heroes.

No longer give to foreign charities as I think that over the years they have received enough to sort themselves out.

Scandalous that Hospices and children's hospitals are charitable organisations. Vast amounts of overseas aid should be spent in getting our own house in order. Call me a grumpy old man? I don't care. Many Commonwealth countries annually hold out the begging bowl and receive tax payers money to squander. The real needy very rarely see anything.

End of rant.

 

[vernon]

Many charities are worth donating to. Personally I'm fed up of the constant tin rattling and telly adverts. (takes a few donations to put a TV advert together)
I firmly believe that charity begins at home and only give to British charities, mainly children's charities and Help for Heroes.

No longer give to foreign charities as I think that over the years they have received enough to sort themselves out.

Scandalous that Hospices and children's hospitals are charitable organisations. Vast amounts of overseas aid should be spent in getting our own house in order. Call me a grumpy old man? I don't care. Many Commonwealth countries annually hold out the begging bowl and receive tax payers money to squander. The real needy very rarely see anything.

End of rant.

Like I've said previously elsewhere. What you say says more about you than it says about your targets

 

[GuardTwin]

I raise money for G.O.S.H (Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children) because I know the money I raise goes directly to them and no one takes money from the charity for a living to my knowledge compared to others that raise money for other things that they're not 100% involved with. I do it because I use to be a patient there.

When people approach me and give the guilt trip technique I do not give in even if it is meant for children because no one should be forced or tricked into giving money because that gives a bad name for the charity and tuns of cons do that too. When I go out for neighbours I will accept money at hand what is in their pockets and make them feel confident It is not going to me and 100% of it goes to the charity by giving them a printscreen picture of what I did to the money, for stores I try to find a charity tin to make which is sealed up and only can be opened by breaking it and giving an option to do it online directly to the charity.

If you do go around with clipboards for work experience and it is a decent charity and a popular one, try not give people a guilt trip because mostly it is a monthly thing which makes me think why should charity be monthly and not X amount once a month if you can provide it.

 

[vernon]

If you do go around with clipboards for work experience and it is a decent charity and a popular one, try not give people a guilt trip because mostly it is a monthly thing which makes me think why should charity be monthly and not X amount once a month if you can provide it.

Eh?

 

[Berties]

not saying their pay packets are truly ethical but if they have the correct contacts and drive they make money for the charity where as a volunteer can step back when they feel like it,my wife's cousin was the pa of the chairman of a large national charity for years and the salary was big the top team got was high ,but the money he could bring in to the charity was colossal ,right or wrong if he didn't make money for the charity he could make it for a company ,