Does doing something "for charity" give you special rights?

[T4tomo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/creplqjdxqxo

Personally I wouldn't be queueing up to touch a trig point in the first place. I'd either do it at a quieter time or be satisfied that having a stroll around the top meant I'd climbed it.

That aside I'm sort of with the boo-ers on this. If there was no queue there would be pushing and bedlam so the peculiarly British queue is a good thing.

I don't really think doing something for charity gives you some moral high ground to queue jump or makes your effort more worthy than Muriel from Wolverhampton whose just enjoying a nice day out hill walking.

 

[DCLane]

Snowdon / Yr Wyddfa is different to the two other 'main' peaks in that there's a train up. Both Ben Nevis and Scafell Pike require effort whereas a large number appear to ride the train up, take the "photo" for social media, and ride back down, hence the probable queues.

Like @T4tomo I went up on a quiet mid-week day solo with hardly anyone else there.

IMO their charity effort gives them no special rights, but probably does have responsibilities they chose to ignore and haven't helped their cause.

 

[BrumJim]

If I had sponsored someone to walk up Snowdon, and they hadn't bothered to wait in the queue for the photo moment with the trig point, would I have thought twice about failing to pay up?

No.

So the "touching the trig point" thing was about personal satisfaction, not the Charity element, so I'm with you @T4tomo .

 

[figbat]

It’s not like they couldn’t have foreseen the queues - they are well-reported and given the weather and timing it was inevitable.

Of course it’s for a good cause, but they all are aren’t they? How many other Three Peakers were in the queue quietly waiting their turn?

 

[raleighnut]

I bet the duckeggs queueing had come up by the train.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Likewise. No special rights with respect to something like this.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Yes, not worthy of special rights. A good cause for sure, but who knows the purpose of other queuers.

Touching the trig point top is not really required to have summited anyway. Same with touching the top of a cairn, imo. Both artificial constructs and not part of the mountain itself.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

I posted that on another forum. They're not getting much sympathy on there either!

 

[Ming the Merciless]

It is a mountain, not a paid tourist attraction. Queuing for the trig point so someone can pretend it is deserted in their Instagram stories is silly. There is no rule or need to queue two at a time. Better photos can be taken elsewhere in the top, with no queues.

It combines two perculiar British traits, queuing and writing strongly worded letters.

Besides plenty of other summits round there that you will get to yourself. Because they are not the highest nor accessible by train.

 

[Badger_Boom]

The world doesn't revolve around Insta., and who exactly was inconvenienced by two guys who'd slogged their way up (plus the other two peaks, and travel) stepping into shot for less than 30 seconds?

 

[Binky]

Why would anyone want to go somewhere with "Alton towers like queues" at all is the first thought I have.
Bit like the ridiculous tourist circus to summit Everest.
The whole point for me when I go out be it hiking or cycling etc is to avoid crowds.

 

[winjim]

Doing an activity "for charity" is weird. Do an activity if you like. Give to charity if you can. No need to link those activities nor to publicise your involvement in either. And certainly don't be a dick about it.

 

[Binky]

Doing an activity "for charity" is weird. Do an activity if you like. Give to charity if you can. No need to link those activities nor to publicise your involvement in either. And certainly don't be a dick about it.

This very much. Some will do an activity they love but then do for example a charity ride and expect money and kudos for basically being paid to do the sport they partake in anyway.

I'm absolutely in favour of giving to worthy causes but some seem to use that as an excuse to go on a sponsored jolly.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

expect money and kudos for basically being paid

They are not being paid. The money goes to the charity. If the money fubds their trip, that is a different matter.

 

[BrumJim]

This very much. Some will do an activity they love but then do for example a charity ride and expect money and kudos for basically being paid to do the sport they partake in anyway.

I'm absolutely in favour of giving to worthy causes but some seem to use that as an excuse to go on a sponsored jolly.

Spoken like a true cyclist:

You want sponsoring for doing a 100k ride? That's just a good day out for me!