Does doing something "for charity" give you special rights?

[Binky]

So you do not fund any of your life style 🤣

I didn't say that I was just correcting your wrong statement.

 

[MichaelW2]

IMHO doing something for charity should involve a high level of discomfort and effort. Part of that would fall under queuing. If someone was raising money via a sponsored queue, but skipped the queue, you'd think them lazy. See also sponsored skydive - yes a good cause but it would only be notably courageous if you had a real phobia of heights

That is why I never sponsor cyclists.
The concept is to do some goal-focussed activity of such an arduous or uncomfortable nature that it deserves recompense.
It is pretty easy to make cycling into an ordeal of horror . It is good for the charidee, good for the sponsee but often not good for the activity of cycling.
Cycling is its own reward and has such widespread benefits that turning it into an ordeal probably costs more life/years of health than were saved by donations.

On cost/benefit anslysis I prefer that cycling be seen as easy and donkey cancer wards go underfunded.

 

[Binky]

That is why I never sponsor cyclists.
The concept is to do some goal-focussed activity of such an arduous or uncomfortable nature that it deserves recompense.
It is pretty easy to make cycling into an ordeal of horror . It is good for the charidee, good for the sponsee but often not good for the activity of cycling.
Cycling is its own reward and has such widespread benefits that turning it into an ordeal probably costs more life/years of health than were saved by donations.

On cost/benefit anslysis I prefer that cycling be seen as easy and donkey cancer wards go underfunded.

I think it's more a case of I'd be far more inclined to sponsor a cyclist undertaking something they don't normally do. Sponsored to do something you love is one thing but to do something you really dislike being far more impressive.

 

[winjim]

It can make a lot of sense, if you get sponsorship for doing it. You are raising more for the charity that way than you would probably contribute by yourself.



But this, I absolutely agree with.

Yeah I'm being a bit glib I know. These things do help to raise awareness. In this case they're also mourning their mate, it's part of the grieving process. I'd be more sympathetic if they seemed at all likeable.

I get more annoyed at activities where the money raised goes to funding the activity itself. eg charity skydive where the first £200 is paying for the skydive itself. That's just getting other people to pay for your jollies.

 

[presta]

Queuing for the trig point so someone can pretend it is deserted in their Instagram stories is silly.

So people are queueing because they don't want others in their photos, and not because you can't get to the trig point?
As someone who was a serious-ish amateur photographer, I quickly learnt that if you go into a public place, and want pix without others in them, you might have a long wait until it's clear. You can't seriously expect to order everyone to get out of the way.

Me on the summit of Scafell Pike about 56-57 years ago, note there were lots of others then, too:

 

[MichaelW2]

I think it's more a case of I'd be far more inclined to sponsor a cyclist undertaking something they don't normally do. Sponsored to do something you love is one thing but to do something you really dislike being far more impressive.

Usually, the undertaking is of a minor and unimportant or frivolous activity: parachuting, pedeloing the Channel etc. Harm to the activity is of no account. RAF pilots will still wear parachutes to work no matter how frightened your sponsored faller is.
Cycling is just different. A normal activity that needs to be normalised.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

So people are queueing because they don't want others in their photos, and not because you can't get to the trig point?

Yep, that is the sum of it.

 

[yello]

To kinda turn it around, I've been asked if I was doing my ride (be it an audax or my own route) for charity. I'm sure many here have experienced the same thing. It seems some folk can't get their heads around cycling 100km (or whatever) purely for fun/personal challenge/whatever. They figure it must be to raise money. Otherwise why?

On the OP, I can't say I have an opinion.

 

[MichaelW2]

On a related note, it it selfish that whenever amatuer sailors do sponsored sails, they are raising money for the very organisation that will rescue themselves.
Seems a bit self serving...

 

[Binky]

Usually, the undertaking is of a minor and unimportant or frivolous activity: parachuting, pedeloing the Channel etc. Harm to the activity is of no account. RAF pilots will still wear parachutes to work no matter how frightened your sponsored faller is.
Cycling is just different. A normal activity that needs to be normalised.

Is cycling different? No sure it is.
Paddy McGuiness did a ride for Children in Need on a chopper. That must have been pretty tough.
People do charity walks yet walking is a normal activity.

I'm not sure I get your point on cycling?

 

[MichaelW2]

Is cycling different? No sure it is.
Paddy McGuiness did a ride for Children in Need on a chopper. That must have been pretty tough.
People do charity walks yet walking is a normal activity.

I'm not sure I get your point on cycling?

Everyday cycling is still a niche activity. People who dont ride have a mental image of it as something that is hard to do, difficult, arduous, dangerous.
Sponsored bike rides play into this mentality.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Just don’t do a sponsored parachute jump.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10476298/

Each £1 raised for charity cost the NHS £13.75 in return.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Paddy McGuiness did a ride for Children in Need on a chopper. That must have been pretty tough.

A modified one for an adult and only 60 miles a day. Not tough if you cycle regularly.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Then you have this 84 year old

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...mad-84-year-old-scales-alpe-dhuez-for-charity

 

[matticus]

Everyday cycling is still a niche minority activity. People who dont ride have a mental image of it as something that is hard to do, difficult, arduous, dangerous.
Sponsored bike rides play into this mentality.

FTFY - now I agree!