Don't ride in groups or we will be stopped cycling completely.

[vickster]

On the other hand a thousand or more kids in a secondary school versus a few adults on a bike ride? I take your point re non essential but in the scheme of things I wonder how much difference various things make.

However, children need to be educated and their parents need to be able to work effectively even if it’s from home. Certainly I have friends and colleagues finding it difficult to do their jobs with the kids around, having to home school etc. I can’t imagine schools will be up and running before September

Yes group cycling may not be a major impact but it’s not needed.

It’ll be a gradual process, get the important things done first

 

[srw]

Construction and manufacturing hasn't stopped, and schools won't open in a hurry. A school is a perfect way to turn a single infection into a giant one and so make lots of families very ill.

 

[matticus]

As late as possible. Clearly non essential and you’re mixing groups of adults from multiple households. Same as for team sports I’d think

I don't think we (yet) have any idea how the lockdown will be tapered, so I don't really know how to answer.
BUT I'd say group rides are a much less infectious scenario than sitting indoors in groups. And more infectious than solo rides, of course!

Contrary to a lot of public opinion, I will go by what the scientists say ...

 

[lane]

Construction and manufacturing hasn't stopped, and schools won't open in a hurry. A school is a perfect way to turn a single infection into a giant one and so make lots of families very ill.

Yes seems to be a lot of talk about schools and the virus being mild for children. But what happens when they come home and infect everyone else in the house could be massive.

 

[vickster]

Yes seems to be a lot of talk about schools and the virus being mild for children. But what happens when they come home and infect everyone else in the house could be massive.

Keep the adults in lockdown?

 

[lane]

Keep the adults in lockdown?

don't see the point once kids are back at school because adults can then be infected at home.

 

[matticus]

Keep the adults in lockdown?

Do you foresee a future where only kids are allowed out? They would do all our shopping, and fetch essential bike parts for us.

A child police force would round-up adult curfew-breakers, herding them into the backs of vans. Disney would definitely make at least one hit film out of it ...

 

[Mo1959]

Do you foresee a future where only kids are allowed out? They would do all our shopping, and fetch essential bike parts for us.

A child police force would round-up adult curfew-breakers, herding them into the backs of vans. Disney would definitely make at least one hit film out of it ...

Lol. Home Alone with adults.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

All of this highlights the importance of the government having an open national debate on what next.

Something they seem absolutely unwilling to do, which to my mind is completely wrong as there is no "right" or"wrong" way to go about this.

I would hope that group cycling would be almost immediately permitted; it's surely very low risk compared to, say, having a meal out. In Denmark, gatherings of 10 people are already legal which I guess would allow group cycling.

 

[lane]

All of this highlights the importance of the government having an open national debate on what next.

Something they seem absolutely unwilling to do, which to my mind is completely wrong as there is no "right" or"wrong" way to go about this.

I would hope that group cycling would be almost immediately permitted; it's surely very low risk compared to, say, having a meal out. In Denmark, gatherings of 10 people are already legal which I guess would allow group cycling.

Makes sense. I was thinking that no one would get round to thinking about group cycling specifically. But yes would be covered by allowing groups of XX generally.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Would you be happy to get back to group riding? No cafe stops of course.

Skipping speculation on what will happen re lockdown but assuming something happens sometime...

I've never been much of a group rider or a user of cafes. The only time I go out with others is for Friday Night Ride to the Coast, plus occasional audaxes. I think I'd wait more for the thicker end of the "normal" wedge to arrive before I went on one of these, rather than the thinner "as soon as it's allowed" end.

But I will be keen to go out for my solo rides when it starts calming down. Although I won't be doing my favourite type which is to ride out from London to a far flung place and get the train home. I'll be looping back home.

One lasting effect that this might have on my cycling is that I've explored the possibilities in the virtual world, which I was never particularly interested in before. And I've been pleasantly surprised to find it really enjoyable - I've done replays of rides I've done in the past and visited exotic* places to do movie simulation rides, I've done a group interval training session, and I have loads more things planned. This will probably remain as part of my cycling and I may be slightly less of a hair-shirt "as long as there isn't sheet ice I go outside" rider.

* eg Yorkshire. Doesn't get much more exotic than that.

 

[vickster]

Do you foresee a future where only kids are allowed out? They would do all our shopping, and fetch essential bike parts for us.

A child police force would round-up adult curfew-breakers, herding them into the backs of vans. Disney would definitely make at least one hit film out of it ...

No, not a future, certainly 3-6 months of restrictions

 

[lane]

I did enjoy some group rides. I would be more concerned about sitting in cafes but that won't happen. Cycling with a few others when the infection risk has reduced might not be too much of a risk.

 

[matticus]

Do you foresee a future where only kids are allowed out? They would do all our shopping, and fetch essential bike parts for us.

A child police force would round-up adult curfew-breakers, herding them into the backs of vans. Disney would definitely make at least one hit film out of it ...

No, not a future, certainly 3-6 months of restrictions

But it might be for years - we need to be ready. There are so many ramifications:
- shops run by kids (especially sweet-shops)
- any contact-based service (e.g. teachers, hair-dressers)
- AGE LIMIT?!? When does the curfew start - 12, 15?
- Will kids have a final fling as they approach cut-off age? Middle-class kids will maraude around the world for a week.

- Could we use kids as social-distancing barriers? "you must keep two children apart. Or 3 if under-10s."

 

[matticus]

All of this highlights the importance of the government having an open national debate on what next.

Yes, that's exactly what Vickster has stimulated!