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Door springs

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by BentMikey, 27 Nov 2007.

  1. BentMikey

    BentMikey Rider of Seolferwulf

    Location:
    South London
    Quick OT question here - our new place has concealed door springs installed, and I want to remove them. They are the type that have two plates with a chain between them, one screwed on the hinge end of the door, and the other into the door frame. I assume there's a spring mounted inside pulling strongly on the chain, which causes the door to close.

    Are there any traps to removing them, or can I just unscrew the two plates to remove the mechanism?
     
  2. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    Watch your fingers!
     
  3. buddha

    buddha Veteran

    Put a pin or a bit of wire through the chain, near the door side (if that's possible) to save said fingers.
     
  4. Membrane

    Membrane New Member

    * Open the door as far as you can
    * Wedge something in the chain so that it can't retract into the plate with the spring
    * Close the door a bit so that the chain has a little bit of slack
    * The door should now still be open enough to reach the screws
    * Remove the screws of the plate that doesn't have the spring in it
    * Pull that plate from the door/frame
    * Then unscrew the other plate (leave it in place)
    * Pull out the wedge (the other plate will violently slam against the other plate, those springs are strong!)
    * Remove the combo
     
  5. JamesAC

    JamesAC Senior Member

    Location:
    London
    Are you sure they're not fire resisting doors which should usually be closed?
     
  6. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    Just what everyone else has said, use ultra cautious mode when dealing with these lethal implements or you could find yourself thanking god for not taking all your fingers!
     
  7. BentMikey

    BentMikey Rider of Seolferwulf

    Location:
    South London
    Fankoo very much. All sorted now.
     
  8. girofan

    girofan New Member

    I would have posted advice but lost two fingers in concealed door spring! :sad::biggrin::biggrin:
     
  9. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    Make sure you haven't invalidated your buildings insurance.
     
  10. I think it only affects compliance with the building regs.

    You can leave them in place and just reduce the spring tension all the way by unscrewing the chain a few turns. Itll make life easier when you come to reinstall them.
     
  11. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    D'uh ! I was gonna say that !
     
  12. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    I thought that you only had to comply with building regs if you are renting the property out? I don't think this applies in a privately owned residence?
     
  13. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    I've got them in my flat, but the building and the communal hallways etc are maintained by a management company who also effect and maintain buildings insurance, which is in with the service charge, and they have told me that if I remove the springs it invalidates the buildings insurance (cos it's a fire door). But I'm allowed to wedge it open :biggrin:. However if you've got your own buildings insurance it probably doesn't make any difference, but just check.
     
  14. papercorn2000

    papercorn2000 Senior Member

    S'easy.

    Get 5 kilo sledge hammer.
    Apply liberally to door at high speed.
    Jobs a good'un.
     
  15. simon l& and a half

    simon l& and a half New Member

    Location:
    Streatham Hill
    the Building Regs have been changed, and door closers are no longer required in flats.....BUT,

    BM, please heed this advice. Smoke alarms. Within easy earshot of the bedroom. Battery with mains back-up is best, but, if only battery, then test the buggers. Please.