Accy cyclist
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Well said sir! š§
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During the war
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Well said sir! š§
Accy cyclist
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Cerdic
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Which led to the strange situation of Free French troops fighting Vichy French in the Middle East...
Rocky
Hello decadence
Yes!! I agree ..... we all need to be aware of those conspiracy theory loving fascists believing the hateful muck put out on social media.
Accy cyclist
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Wouldn't you agree that the 'fascists' are equally as guilty of fascism by banning different opinions or demanding those with different opinions are banned?š¤
Rocky
Hello decadence
It depends on what those opinions are.....if itās to murder everyone in Accrington as they sleep in their beds, itās probably legit to ban them and stop their machinations - wouldnāt you agree?
CanucksTraveller
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I think I do see what your point was now, but I disagree with it, and yes, it matters what paper it comes from. I'll engage with you and try to illustrate why it's important below.
Just to be up front: I've lived on the Falkland Islands twice, I served as both a Police Constable and as a Customs Officer in Stanley, while I know that doesn't make me an expert commentator on the politics of the islands I do at least know the islands, and feel I have at least a basic understanding of how the Islanders feel.
The pictures in the Sun link were largely NOT taken by Islanders, (there are one, maybe two exceptions). They show (1) a couple of shots of men at the *Argentine* graveyard acting in a somewhat patriotic / jingoistic manner (depending on your view). These could not have been taken by an Islander. (2) An organised group of (probably) Argentinians, but possibly mixed nationalities, posing next to one of the British memorials. Likely taken by a local tour guide. (3) A fairly meek but arguably more provocative act where one of the men displayed his political message in town by the central quay, the only picture that looks to have been taken by an Islander.
None of it strikes me as a state sponsored act of political point scoring, which I believe is what you believe is going on there and what Argentina intended by burying their dead at San Carlos. If it was, it's a very, very poor attempt by Buenos Aires. A solitary bloke with a little flag? I believe that the internet cool guys call that a "fail".
(1) Has always happened, both on the Islands and at many other grave sites around the world. You can't legislate for a bit of individual jingoism... see the comments under the Sun article for proof that the Argentines don't have that monopoly. And according to the Sun he's in "combat gear"? By their definition, anyone walking around UK streets wearing some urban camo cargo pants would be in "combat gear", but no, it's only when it suits the Sun's need for a sensational headline.
(2) Has always happened; Indeed British service people regularly take photos (including group shots of themselves and colleagues) at the Argentine graveyard. It's not disrespectful to have your group photo taken with a memorial to the fallen of another nation. It's simply battlefield tourism, and a part of life on the islands, it's no different to visiting battlefield memorials in any country. They weren't peeing on the thing or doing anything disrespectful.
(3) See my point 1, it's one jingoistic guy making a point. It would offend some Islanders, but it's one guy.
The Sun article is pure rabble rousing and appealing only to the Jim Davidson peanut gallery. Let's be clear, Buenos Aires has no respect for the islanders right to self determination, and feelings toward Argentina remain (at best) cool among the islanders, not least because Buenos Aires still continues to claim sovereignty. But the burial of the Argentine dead where they fell doesn't appear to have led to a 30 year propaganda war based on the graves, and I don't believe that a p*ss poor piece of journalism by the Sun helps prove what (I believe) was your point.
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No they declared very early on.So their nice old buidings would not get flattened by the Nazis.
lane
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Got you. Not neutral but fighting on both sides.
captain nemo1701
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During the war.....
Here's silly me thinking that it was about OFAH Uncle Albert.....
Here's silly me thinking that it was about OFAH Uncle Albert.....
With the French Foreign Legion, full of Nazi exiles, on both sides.
Just out of interest which response to the current crisis would you have changed and to what?
