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ianrauk

ianrauk

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No more please. It's done.
 
MontyVeda

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I had a Dyson hoover given to me... i was over the moon, I mean, I've been given a feckin' Dyson! I quickly realised why the previous owner wanted rid of it. No bag, no loss of suction... not much feckin' suction in the first place IME. Someone once described them as over designed, under engineered, which is a good way of putting it. By the time i'd got a replacement, half of the base had snapped off.

The replacement Miele hoover (also given) is great. Loads of suction and a robust build... it might last me the rest of my lifetime. Not many places seem to sell Miele bags around here though, so i adapted the bag it came with so i can reuse it.

Dyson's may have been the bee's knees in the beginning, but they soon cut costs and corners and relied on the branding to continue selling their underwhelming hoovers.

Dyson's styling may appeal to some... the sci-fi hoover with modern 'fresh' colours. I think it's ugly... but most hoovers are. Why can't someone design a hoover that's so beautiful that one would never dream of storing it in a cupboard?
 
Milkfloat

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NickNick

NickNick

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Crackle said:
I think I discovered another make with a cardboard version of that which fits the Miele but unfortunately I'm afraid I can't recall what it was. You'd think they could make it out of cardboard though.
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Yep we get ours from Wilko, they're generic ones and 99%sure they're cardboard.
 
NickNick

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MontyVeda said:
I had a Dyson hoover given to me... i was over the moon, I mean, I've been given a feckin' Dyson! I quickly realised why the previous owner wanted rid of it. No bag, no loss of suction... not much feckin' suction in the first place IME. Someone once described them as over designed, under engineered, which is a good way of putting it. By the time i'd got a replacement, half of the base had snapped off.

The replacement Miele hoover (also given) is great. Loads of suction and a robust build... it might last me the rest of my lifetime. Not many places seem to sell Miele bags around here though, so i adapted the bag it came with so i can reuse it.

Dyson's may have been the bee's knees in the beginning, but they soon cut costs and corners and relied on the branding to continue selling their underwhelming hoovers.

Dyson's styling may appeal to some... the sci-fi hoover with modern 'fresh' colours. I think it's ugly... but most hoovers are. Why can't someone design a hoover that's so beautiful that one would never dream of storing it in a cupboard?
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Agree with you re the Dyson looking ugly and they're pointlessly cumbersome and really not practical, if they were as good as they pretend to be, professional cleaners would use them in droves.

Re the miele bags, I tend to reuse ours a few times, drives the wife mad, but seems like a waste to just bin the bags when you can get a couple of uses out of them.

If you've got a Wilko near you, they stock their own brand generic miele bags which are a fraction of the price, just as good and also include a couple of the filter pads iirc.
 
slowmotion

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A Warning:

Some generic dust bags are not nearly as porous to air as the originals. I bought some for our big industrial Numatic vacuum at work. They had a tendency to be sucked off the inlet spout. As a result, all the dust was sucked directly through the motor, and the motor blew up. It cost £110 to replace the motor, all because I thought I'd save a few pennies on a cheap bag.
 
MontyVeda

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User13710 said:
Thanks for that. I reuse mine too, and make them last ages by hardly ever doing any hoovering :okay:.
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...and hardly ever emptying the bag. I'd be surprised if a do it more than once every 18 months (empty the bag... the hoovering* is slightly more regular).

*or Mieleing, to keep Spen happy.
 
NickNick

NickNick

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slowmotion said:
A Warning:

Some generic dust bags are not nearly as porous to air as the originals. I bought some for our big industrial Numatic vacuum at work. They had a tendency to be sucked off the inlet spout. As a result, all the dust was sucked directly through the motor, and the motor blew up. It cost £110 to replace the motor, all because I thought I'd save a few pennies on a cheap bag.
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I'd be especially careful with ones bought online (have had similar experience to the one you describe with an ebay purchase) but we've been running the wilko ones for Miele hoovers for several years now without issue.
 
Andrew_P

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NickNick said:
The hoover industry hasn't been fubared by the EU, they've stopped companies using the power consumption of the hoover's engine to deceive people into believing they're buying better/more powerful hoovers. Lots of manufacturers were using cheap inefficient engines, you're much better off with an efficient 900w device than an extremely inefficient 1600W hoover!

Its telling that manufacturers use engine wattage (very cheap to increase in an arms war with other manufacturers) and not suction power (difficult and expensive to increase) as their big selling point.
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That's interesting never knew that. I had been looking around for work and someone mentioned to me about the watts being lower now due to an EU regulation which prompted a quick Google! I think part of the Miele power is that the head forms a good seal on the floor when <hoovering>
 
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