classic33
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New laws in Ireland from midnight tonight. More to follow in the coming months.
E-Scooters are lethal as transport
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Drago
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Canr beat a bit of victim blaming.
Mind you, anything that deters people from riding these devides cant be bad.
Mind you, anything that deters people from riding these devides cant be bad.
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How is this going to be enforced?
Who is going to stop the riders in order to fine them?
An officer in a car, no way, the scooter can escape easy.
An officer on foot? Again, no way.
Maybe an officer on an Ebike, if they can handle a bike well
classic33
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They use/operate mobile checkpoints over there. Fail to stop when signalled to do so and one of those on the checkpoint will be on you sharpish.How is this going to be enforced?
Who is going to stop the riders in order to fine them?
An officer in a car, no way, the scooter can escape easy.
An officer on foot? Again, no way.
Maybe an officer on an Ebike, if they can handle a bike well
I've been stopped at a few of their mobile checkpoints, for no reason other than I was on the road at the time.
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You were on your bike/trike, correct?
The checkpoint operator (police, correct?) have a car, yes?
An electric scooter can swiftly disappear where a car can't follow, doesn't need to stay on the road.
If you were on a bike when they stopped you, you could have evaded too, should you so have been inclined.
Next thing will be all cyclists have to wear a helmet and HiViz, while the E-scooter riders will still do what they do now.
I thought they were illegal anyway unless ridden on private land, maybe in Ireland is different.
classic33
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I was on a bike at the time. And like all vehicles on the same road, headed in the same direction were being stopped.
The Gardai operate in a different manner to the police over here. The laws are different over there, as illustrated by the fact that you seldom see mobile checkpoints on the roads over here.
Hi-Vis and helmets are mandatory in Dublin for all cyclists as it is. As is the mandatory use of cycle lanes(in Dublin).
Electric scooters are legal as long as they meet current regulations.
How is this going to be enforced?
Who is going to stop the riders in order to fine them?
An officer in a car, no way, the scooter can escape easy.
An officer on foot? Again, no way.
Maybe an officer on an Ebike, if they can handle a bike well
They won't enforce it.
Given that they don't bother enforcing any of the other rules of the road, this won't be any different.
It doesn't matter that he has 37 previous convictions. He's a good boy who has managed not to get caught doing anything wrong in the past few months, and he needs his licence to take his granny to pick up her pension from the post office on Fridays.
Indeed. While on a good day I can accept these hire ebikes and scooters on the basis of their underlying positive ideology, I'm increasingly coming to hate them both for rational and irrational reasons.
They're often ridden badly, sometimes especially-so by a special breed of dickhead who seemingly goes out of their to inconvenience and endanger others
I'm sick of having to negotiate my way around those that have been dumped in the middle of cycle paths and other routes, while I remain sceptical of their environmental creds (both in terms of the traffic they claim to offset and the life cycle of the devices themselves).
Finally I wonder how trustworthy the associated apps are..
On top of that I dislike the element of casual tourism these bikes bring to "our thing"; which seems to reflect a lot of other questionable changes in modern society that water down experiences; reducing the commitment and effort they require with the corresponding repercussions this brings.
Arguably this is creating a somewhat perfect storm for some riders - casual, infrequent use of a vehicle that's both heavier and capable of greater acceleration / higher speeds than they might otherwise have managed and it seems that both hire scooter and ebikes are involved in a higher rate of incidents - with potentially more serious outcomes - than traditional bikes..
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When was that law enacted? It was not the case last year.
Dogtrousers
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I'm with you on this. In central London, at certain times of day, they are a favourite from of transport of high spirited drunken young people. Especially in summer. You need to keep your wits about you.
That's not to mention the pavement blocking of dumped bikes.
Nice idea, but they need docks like the Santander bikes. But the operators could never be expected to pony up cash for that. Apparently there is some kind of virtual electronic dock system. But it clearly doesn't work.
Drago
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I try to do my vit by depositing them in the nearest pond, ditch or hedgerow dock.
classic33
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Over ten years ago.
In Dublin city. Nenagh had a daylight running lights years before that.
It still isn't the case, despite the bleatings of some "experts."
Indeed, we now have a president who gets criticism in the press for setting a bad example and promoting dangerous behaviours when she's seen riding her bike without a helmet.
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Sad the criticism
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