Earphones whilst riding - yes or no - ?
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hoopdriver
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Yes...and a sense of humour....
Our unlimited number of senses....
Our unlimited number of senses....
jefmcg
Guru
Close your eyes. Now hold out your arm. Can you tell where your arm is? That's a sense, and a sense you can lose.
Or do you just want to continue in the same vein and talk about the 4 humours? Blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm.
hoopdriver
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...and your horse sense, and your common sense, and putting in your two cents....
hoopdriver
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Six humours - your sense of humour and your vitreous humor
glasgowcyclist
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[QUOTE 5033197, member: 45"]If you're deaf, you practice being deaf every minute of your day. Your body and brain have known nothing else since you became deaf, so it's expert in being able to manage with that sense missing.
Headphone-wearing cyclists are amateur deaf people. They're never going to be very good at it.
Note that comparing deaf people with headphone wearing cyclists isn't my idea, and I don't think it's a valid comparison.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I should have made it clearer but I was interested in what you were suggesting people with hearing impairment did differently while cycling.
Headphone-wearing cyclists are amateur deaf people. They're never going to be very good at it.
Note that comparing deaf people with headphone wearing cyclists isn't my idea, and I don't think it's a valid comparison.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I should have made it clearer but I was interested in what you were suggesting people with hearing impairment did differently while cycling.
jefmcg
Guru
Oh, I had assumed you weren't reading any science more recent than Hippocrates.
Also marvelling that you don't sense pain.
T.M.H.N.E.T
Rainbows aren't just for world champions
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[QUOTE 5033148, member: 45"]My motorcycle earplugs have a filter in that take out certain frequencies. It's weird having wind noise cut down but still being able to hear things like engine noises and voices.[/QUOTE]
Yep, mine are Alpine Motosafe race, the tour version were a couple of dB too low. The standard earplugs I used to get in work make me feel cut-off and almost claustrophobic.
I'm intrigued by the custom ear impression job if you have any experience
Yep, mine are Alpine Motosafe race, the tour version were a couple of dB too low. The standard earplugs I used to get in work make me feel cut-off and almost claustrophobic.
I'm intrigued by the custom ear impression job if you have any experience
T.M.H.N.E.T
Rainbows aren't just for world champions
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[QUOTE 5033323, member: 45"]I've got hearology custom fits. They were doing free scans a while ago at the balloon fiesta in Bristol. They scan electronically, and say that it's better than using impressions as the putty pushes your ear out of shape before it sets.
They fit really well and as I said they really help you hear your surroundings while cutting out damaging wind noise. You can pick the colour, and the filter frequency. Not cheap though.[/QUOTE]
Ill have a google later. Thanks
They fit really well and as I said they really help you hear your surroundings while cutting out damaging wind noise. You can pick the colour, and the filter frequency. Not cheap though.[/QUOTE]
Ill have a google later. Thanks
glasgowcyclist
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[QUOTE 5033251, member: 45"]They generally would have the ability to respond better to impaired hearing.
And they have no choice. Which is the only relevant point to be taken from the comparison.[/QUOTE]
I guess all I'm going to get are vague generalisations which don't answer my query.
And they have no choice. Which is the only relevant point to be taken from the comparison.[/QUOTE]
I guess all I'm going to get are vague generalisations which don't answer my query.
smutchin
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That's a rather narrow definition. And wrong. Or at least extremely oversimplified.
All our information about the world is derived from a complex combination of different sensory inputs. Taste, for example, isn't just sensed by the tongue, it's heavily influenced by what we can smell and see as well.
For a cyclist, hearing is part of the complex combination of sensory inputs that give us information about our surroundings, but the problem with hearing is that it is unreliable and often misleading, especially in urban environments. We are not bats. We cannot acquire accurate information about our surroundings from hearing alone.
The sense of proprioception is even more important to cyclists than the sense of sight, and hearing is well down the list - in fact, we can manage to ride a bike perfectly well without it. We can't ride a bike without proprioception.
And anyone who thinks listening to music riding a bike is inherently unsafe would do well to provide some meaningful evidence to back up that claim - ideally something a bit more tangible than 'stands to reason' - otherwise I'll just ignore you the same as I ignore people who tell me it's unsafe to ride a bike without a ****** on my head.
hoopdriver
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Please...feel free to ignore me. Walk right on by. I’d appreciate it in fact.
jefmcg
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I don't think that's true. At the very most they are equally important, unless you are suggesting you can ride a bike more than a couple of metres without sight. You can somewhat compensate for loss of proprioception using your sight, which would probably get you at least the same distance.
And for compensating - a blind cyclist would need to tandem and someone to captain it, one lacking proprioception would need a tricycle.
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