Easyjet and nut allergies

[GrumpyGregry]

Indeed

Perhaps they could announce it is a prayer free flight?

Really nips my sack when folk try to read what I'm typing on phone or lappy when in public spaces. I have told one Sven to wind his neck in, firmly but politely, when he started asking me about a slide deck I was working on.

But praying on a plane, or using social media to arrange a prayer meeting? Beyond the pale. People who believe in God should not be allowed on flights.

 

[mybike]

Interesting when considering all the questions about contamination of the cabin air in aircraft with organophosphate compounds from the engines.

 

[Tin Pot]

Interesting when considering all the questions about contamination of the cabin air in aircraft with organophosphate compounds from the engines.

What's the relevance?

 

[jefmcg]

Why do you say that? And in an emergency situation it might be hard to remember as you saw a loved one struggling to breathe. I hope never to be in that situation and that if I am that my memory kicks in, and I remember what to do.

This is not a random, unexpected event. The kid was at high enough risk that the parents demanded everyone on the plane modify their behaviour. It's not some remote unlikelihood that they covered in a first aid course 5 years ago, it's a clear and present danger that is in the front of their minds. I just read up anaphylaxis on the NHS site. They give clear instructions on how to administer adrenaline. Apparently the injectors also have instructions. Presumably their GP also told them what to do.

Would you really travel overseas under these circumstances and hope that the memory kicks in if you need it or just rely on random strangers, or would you make sure that you were ready to do what you needed to do?

 

[Crackle]

This is not a random, unexpected event. The kid was at high enough risk that the parents demanded everyone on the plane modify their behaviour. It's not some remote unlikelihood that they covered in a first aid course 5 years ago, it's a clear and present danger that is in the front of their minds. I just read up anaphylaxis on the NHS site. They give clear instructions on how to administer adrenaline. Apparently the injectors also have instructions. Presumably their GP also told them what to do.

Would you really travel overseas under these circumstances and hope that the memory kicks in if you need it or just rely on random strangers, or would you make sure that you were ready to do what you needed to do?

We are all different, you may cope, they may not. Perhaps panic overcame them, their stomach churned, blood drained from their face, their brains went to mush as they saw their child clearly about to die in front of them and they just went numb. They may well have reacted in time but in the meantime a stranger intervened. Is that so difficult to understand?

 

[nickyboy]

I don't believe nut allergies actually exist and those who claim to have them should be forced to have peanuts stuffed up their nostrils until they admit its just attention-seeking

 

[ColinJ]

I don't believe nut allergies actually exist and those who claim to have them should be forced to have peanuts stuffed up their nostrils until they admit its just attention-seeking

The test would be more meaningful if they actually stuffed nuts up their nostrils!

 

[jefmcg]

We are all different, you may cope, they may not. Perhaps panic overcame them, their stomach churned, blood drained from their face, their brains went to mush as they saw their child clearly about to die in front of them and they just went numb. They may well have reacted in time but in the meantime a stranger intervened. Is that so difficult to understand?

I don't understand how a parent could take a child that far away from medical assistance unless they felt confident to do what is needed in an emergency. I wouldn't feel the same if it happened in the playground or in their house, but if you are taking your child to 30,000', you need to be sure you handle this situation.

 

[Fnaar]

Have been in a situation where (for some time) because of a person's severe caffeine allergy, several hundred people needed to ensure that there was no caffeine anywhere near the affected person. I can sympathise with the person with the allergy (and I have treated allergies in the NHS too, in a previous job, many years ago... I don't work in the NHS any more) but I'm not so sure it's fair to require such a degree of (everyday) behaviour modification of people going about their ordinary business...

 

[mjr]

Allergy, intolerance and affectation are not the same thing.

Sure, but if you say you've got a food intolerance, few people understand what you mean - but I generally say "I can't eat ..." because I don't want to say allergy. It's still technically incorrect (I could eat them but my body would reject the food in various ways that are more-or-less unpleasant to bystanders - usually FAAAAART BURRRRRP at worst but occasionally or nasty itching lumps) but seems to get the message across enough that few people would make me eat them.

People who believe in God should not be allowed on flights.

If God had meant them to fly, eh?

 

[Markymark]

but I'm not so sure it's fair to require such a degree of (everyday) behaviour modification of people going about their ordinary business...

Going on a commercial flight for a few hours is not going about their everyday business. It is a closed environment and 5 miles up usually above water. Different rules and difference degrees of entitlement are required.

 

[summerdays]

Going on a commercial flight for a few hours is not going about their everyday business. It is a closed environment and 5 miles up usually above water. Different rules and difference degrees of entitlement are required.

Plus the last thing everyone wants is for the plane to be diverted because someone needs urgent medical attention.

The epipen is not a perfect fix, and one of my children's holidays was affected by someone taking a risk with nuts, knowing they were allergic, the 2 epipens were not enough and he subsequently died, because they weren't able to get him to hospital quick enough from their remote location.

 

[mybike]

What's the relevance?

Hazard to health.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gnored-three-warnings-not-eat-nuts-board.html

"Ryanair said the unknown passenger would be banned for two years"

How will that work, especially as he seemingly got on board this time with only his nationality known?

There's a gaping loophole for pedants to avoid a nut ban, loads of 'nuts' aren't nuts anyway.

Which begs a question, do nut allergists suffer a reaction from other legumes, or is there something particular that links the things generally described as nuts?

 

[Crackle]

They don't suffer a reaction, they go into anaphylactic shock, it's not like getting a mild headache.