Electric assist / electric powered.

[I like Skol]

There's bigger fish to fry in the UK than delivery riders on ebikes.

That may be the case but.......

If we don't even attempt to police the basic rules then the bigger laws just break down. If there is no fear of enforcement then all and any laws become game for ignoring. It is a slippery slope, either we have laws or we don't.

 

[figbat]

So why not just jump on or in any vehicle you like and use it on the road? May as well be hung for a sheep not a lamb. Food deliveries by Kawasaki H2 Ninja with no number plate, no helmet, no insurance/tax/MoT are the same as riding an electric bike that’s not an EAPC.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

So why not just jump on or in any vehicle you like and use it on the road? May as well be hung for a sheep not a lamb. Food deliveries by Kawasaki H2 Ninja with no number plate, no helmet, no insurance/tax/MoT are the same as riding an electric bike that’s not an EAPC.

Yes - they go on about how terrible it is about these people driving with no MOT or whatever

but do nothing about people on 1000W electrified bikes with no nothing

but, of course, a car can do a lot more damage than a bike and tends to go faster

I guess it all comes down to accident stats

 

[bonzobanana]

I don't think its been mentioned in this thread that you can have twist and go ebikes if they have been individually tested in the UK as per the Wisper models.

https://wisperbikes.com/full-throttle-option/

Plus if you have converted a normal bicycle to an ebike with a twist and go throttle you dont need to have it tested as long as it complies to the legislation.

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/dft-pedal-cycles-converted-twist-go-exempt-type-approval/

Then of course there are many ebikes now that have a throttle that only operates when you pedal and these are fully legal on brand new ebikes that don't have to be type approved. People often seem to write as if the throttle itself is illegal which of course is not the case its just a way of controlling power. The issue is when it operates for some ebikes.

The wattage is also something that is mainly ignored. Most mid-drive e-mountain bikes which are legal for road use are well over 700W often 800W in use when climbing hills these really should have a 750W or 800W rating.

It is exceptionally poor legislation that makes little sense and is all over the place. Extremely hard to police.

The only thing that is easy to police really is does it assist to a maximum 17mph or less (there is a 10% tolerance) and does it have pedals.

 

[simongt]

There's bigger fish to fry in the UK than delivery riders on ebikes.

And that's the issue; far too much 'admin' to be completed for even the most trivial of 'physical actions'.