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GoatBeard

Active Member
So you're firmly cleated in, on a new route and suddenly you hit a hill. You click up a gear, hill still steep, hit a bend and steeper. Realize you've got a bit of a problem....Out of gears and you this thing is still getting way steeper. You can't keep up and know you need to bail. Fast.

What do you do? Hit the brakes and accept you're going to topple over? Probably crushing yourself and your carbon frame in the process. Or do you try and pull a quick turn back down the hill so you can control yourself off the bike? Oh wait, there's a car behind you...

Thankfully this hasn't happened to me but I've no idea what Id do. On tough sections I go into panic mode and that usually gets me to the top. Not fun at allthough.
 

rivers

How far can I go?
Location
Bristol
Pull over to the side of the road and unclip
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
It won't happen. No road in the UK no matter how insignificant, is steeper than what a loaded packhorse could manage so a cyclist can get up it even with a bit of a sweat.

If you're really out of puff just stop, hold the bike on brakes and unclip.
 
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GoatBeard

Active Member
I know the initiative answer is 'just unclip' but in practice that's not such a quick and easy thing to do (Look Keo) you're falling over for sure or twisting an ankle severely.
 

Slick

Guru
I must be missing something as unclipping takes a second or two, no more which has always been ample time to get my feet on the floor before I topple over.
 

MntnMan62

Über Member
Location
Northern NJ
I know the initiative answer is 'just unclip' but in practice that's not such a quick and easy thing to do (Look Keo) you're falling over for sure or twisting an ankle severely.

Not if you are aware of your situation at all times and are prepared. How hard is it to sense that your legs are giving out and you are about to stop moving forward? I've been there. And on steep climbs I am acutely aware of my fitness level at any given moment and my ability to maintain enough speed before falling over. If this were a discussion about mountain biking, I would understand some debate over the subject since with mountain biking there are lots of obstacles that can stop forward motion which cannot be anticipated. Now, I will admit that I don't use road bike clipless pedals and instead use mountain bike clipless pedals on my road bike. I do this because it seemed silly for me to have two different sets of shoes for essentially the same sport. And I've heard, though not experienced this myself, that it is easier to unclip from mountain bike pedals than road bike pedals. If this is in fact true, then the idea and concept of road bike clipless pedals is preposterous and makes my decision to forgo road bike clipless pedals even more justified. For the record, I have never unwittingly unclipped from my pedals while road biking. Anyway, I've blathered on long enough.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
So you're firmly cleated in, on a new route and suddenly you hit a hill. You click up a gear, hill still steep, hit a bend and steeper. Realize you've got a bit of a problem....
I would have already known was coming. I plot my new routes using OS maps and I look out for the chevron symbols. A single chevron is ok (14-20%) - I know that I can handle those hills. Double chevrons... Houston, we might have a problem (20+%)! I would have a look on Streetview and also search online to see if anybody had described riding up that hill.

Out of gears and you this thing is still getting way steeper. You can't keep up and know you need to bail. Fast.
I took the precaution of putting a triple chainset and big cassette on my bike so I have a much better chance of getting up those nasty steep ramps!

New Stronglight triple chainset and Look Delta pedals on Cannondale CAAD5.jpg


What do you do? Hit the brakes and accept you're going to topple over? Probably crushing yourself and your carbon frame in the process.
If you are on such a steep ramp that you are about to fall off, no braking required - you will come to a halt in less than 1 second and you need all of that time to get your foot unclipped so leave the brakes alone!

Or do you try and pull a quick turn back down the hill so you can control yourself off the bike?
Don't even think about attempting that turn - if the hill is as steep as you say, you would likely fall off!

Oh wait, there's a car behind you...
Funnily enough, I just found a diary from when I got back into cycling in 1989. I found a report of riding up a monster local climb but failing 3/4 of the way up. I can clearly remember it happening - I had managed the 10% bits. I had got up the 15%. I survived the 20% and had suffered like hell up the 25% and I thought that I was going to get round the LH bend after which the gradient settles back down to a manageable level. An idiot driver had other plans for me...

Got up this...

Mytholm Steeps - so near but so far.jpg


But the driver overtook me on this evil bend, which is about 35% on the inside, forcing me onto the cobbled bit...

Mytholm Steeps - swing wide for evil bend.jpg


My legs seized up and I fell to my left, fortunately landing on the grassy bank. I had toeclips and straps on that bike so it was impossible for me to dismount in a hurry. I saw the error of my ways and replaced the pedals...

Unfortunately, I replaced them with Look Deltas (as you can see in the photos above). They were the model before the Keos, but the same idea - a big piece of slippery plastic attached to the soles of your shoes. Not good for emergency dismounts! In the photo above with my bike halfway up the 25% ramp, I had actually just done an emergency dismount, fearing that I was not going to make it round that bend. Guess what? Yes, the Delta cleat slipped from under me and I nearly faceplanted on the road!

So... the Deltas had to go too! Now, all of my bikes have mountain bike-type SPD pedals on. The aggressive tread and recessed cleats on SPD shoes are ideal for panic dismounts.

I must be missing something as unclipping takes a second or two, no more which has always been ample time to get my feet on the floor before I topple over.
You are missing riding up 20-30% ramps! :laugh:

Put it this way, if you are fit enough to ride up climbs that steep fast enough to be able to coast for 1-2 seconds then you probably would not be having to dismount...

It won't happen. No road in the UK no matter how insignificant, is steeper than what a loaded packhorse could manage so a cyclist can get up it even with a bit of a sweat.
Pardon me, but, er - billhooks! :whistle: Here is a Pennine packhorse trail with 2 cyclists on it...

steep-push-from-bottomley-pennine-bridleway-mary-towneley-loop.jpg


I'm sure that there are some cyclists who could get up that climb on their bikes, but I didn't make it and those 2 didn't either - we were all pretty fit at the time. I'd guess that 90% of riders would walk the steepest part of it.
 

Ian H

Ancient randonneur
The only time anything like this happened to me was years ago. I was on fixed with shoe-plates and clips. Straps were tight, so there was no way my feet would come out by themselves. So it was fall sideways on to one hand then reach down to loosen a strap with the other.

Clipless pedals are easy by comparison. I never unclip until I'm ready to put a foot down; it's automatic, I don't even think about it.
 
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