I spend over 5 hours a week commuting to/from work so am keen to get a saddle that is designed to prevent 'erectile dysfunction / impotence neuropathy'. Have done a bit of goggling but can not find any proper medical reviews/advice on which saddle is best. All I can find is general info on what kind of things to look for. Anyone got any decent URLs to independent medical info on specific saddles?
erectile dysfunction / impotence neuropathy
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spindrift said:
A wilderness Trail saddle put my willy out of action.
fossyant
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Don't get taken in by this rubbish - the worse you'll get is numb bits, that is until your arse hardens up.
Never had a problem and I spend about 10 hours a week in the saddle.
Chris Boardman has quite a few kids, and they were conceived when he was a Top level cyclist, and before these 'holey' saddles came in....
Never had a problem and I spend about 10 hours a week in the saddle.
Chris Boardman has quite a few kids, and they were conceived when he was a Top level cyclist, and before these 'holey' saddles came in....
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Recumbent riders are more virile.
Firing on all cylinders here however now under cover
Check out these as suggested above by dom
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/article/mps/UAN/954/v/1/sp/
Check out these as suggested above by dom
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/article/mps/UAN/954/v/1/sp/
spindrift said:
This is a bit of an irresponsible thing to say and is not really backed up by medical evidence. Although the jury is still out on this there seem to be more medical reports that find a link than do not (I am talking here about proper medical reports, not articles in cycling magazines). So when it comes to this part of my anatomy, I prefer to ere on the side of caution
It’s a bit like saying we should not pay any atension to climate change because the evidence is not conclusive. http://bicyclehabitat.com/page.cfm?PageID=97
The principal study citing a possible ED - cycling link is the Schwarzer study
- AUA Abstract 952. This is adose-response survey study comparing the responses
of cyclists and swimmers. The study found cyclists were twice as likely to
suffer severe impotence than swimmers. Unfortunately, the report did not adjust
the results for the fact the swimmers were on average 10 years younger than the
cyclists, nor did the abstract detail the margin of error in the survey, which
would push the impotency rates between the cyclists and swimmers into a
statistical tie. In political terms, It's too close to call. The final blow to
this survey came when a colleague of mine, Bud Hoffacker, the owner of Avocet
cycling products, graphed the impotency rates of the cyclists against the
findings of the Mass. Male Aging Study and demonstrated that when compared to
the general male population, cyclists were half as likely to suffer severe
impotence and 1/3 as likely to suffer any form of impotence. The conclusion he
drew from the study is that cycling may not be as beneficial as swimming at
mitigating or eliminating impotence. Also he concluded, at a minimum cycling
does not expose riders to a higher risk of impotence.
The other major study was AUA abstract 941, titled "You don't have to ride in
the Tour de France". This was a backwards study in which 1600 men with ED were
surveyed and the 81 men self reporting that they believed bicycling was 50%
responsible for their ED were studied. From this the authors concluded that
"Bicycle riding associated impotence occurs in different forms of bicycle
riding and riding exposures." In my shop a customer will come in with a flat
tire, and he will often tell me why he got a flat. He will be wrong about the
tire being punctured 2% of the time and wrong about the cause of the flat 50%
of the time, I wonder if these same people can diagnose why they got a flat
penis. What I would really like to see is some hard facts on cycling and ED.
The part of this survey which really jumped out at me was that 26% of the
participants said they used aero handle bars. This is a system that moves your
body into a more aerodynamic position by moving your center of gravity forward
and down. This also has the effect of putting more weight on the perineal area.
These riders, while making up 26% of the study group, make up about 1/10 of 1%
of cyclists. This definitely suggests a risk area or a major flaw in the self
identification of the study group.
6. Biking will make me impotent. This is a charge that has circulated since the late 1990s, and there’s a kernel of truth to it. There is evidence that serious bike riders can experience temporary and even long-lasting erectile dysfunction if they log lots of hours on a racing seat that doesn’t fit properly. But there are now plenty of seats like this one with ergonomically designed cutaway grooves that take the pressure off the key arteries and nerves. And if you really want to play it safe, there are noseless saddles, too. As long as your saddle fits correctly and you don’t ride as much as somebody training for the Tour de France, biking is more apt to reduce your odds of erectile dysfunction than raise them, since the exercise will help keep cardiovascular disease—a major cause of erectile dysfunction—at bay.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-men/2008/5/15/6-myths-about-commuting-by-bicycle.html
But before you get caught up in the hysteria, it’s worth getting a second opinion.
Dr Andrew Garnham, race doctor for the Herald Sun Tour and doctor in charge of cycling events at the 2006 Commonwealth Games believes the issue has been exaggerated. According to Garnham, erectile dysfunction is most commonly associated with cardiovascular disease related to a lack of fitness.
“The number one way of correcting this is regular exercise. Anyone who cycles regularly is helping out their situation.”
Garnham says there is plenty of evidence to suggest that cyclists enjoy good sexual health and he is quick to debunk the myth that professional cyclists are advised to bank their sperm.
“There is a theory that raising the temperature of the testes in tight clothing can interfere with the potency of sperm. There is, however, no link between cycling and infertility,” said Garnham.
http://www.bv.com.au/join-us/30317/
The principal study citing a possible ED - cycling link is the Schwarzer study
- AUA Abstract 952. This is adose-response survey study comparing the responses
of cyclists and swimmers. The study found cyclists were twice as likely to
suffer severe impotence than swimmers. Unfortunately, the report did not adjust
the results for the fact the swimmers were on average 10 years younger than the
cyclists, nor did the abstract detail the margin of error in the survey, which
would push the impotency rates between the cyclists and swimmers into a
statistical tie. In political terms, It's too close to call. The final blow to
this survey came when a colleague of mine, Bud Hoffacker, the owner of Avocet
cycling products, graphed the impotency rates of the cyclists against the
findings of the Mass. Male Aging Study and demonstrated that when compared to
the general male population, cyclists were half as likely to suffer severe
impotence and 1/3 as likely to suffer any form of impotence. The conclusion he
drew from the study is that cycling may not be as beneficial as swimming at
mitigating or eliminating impotence. Also he concluded, at a minimum cycling
does not expose riders to a higher risk of impotence.
The other major study was AUA abstract 941, titled "You don't have to ride in
the Tour de France". This was a backwards study in which 1600 men with ED were
surveyed and the 81 men self reporting that they believed bicycling was 50%
responsible for their ED were studied. From this the authors concluded that
"Bicycle riding associated impotence occurs in different forms of bicycle
riding and riding exposures." In my shop a customer will come in with a flat
tire, and he will often tell me why he got a flat. He will be wrong about the
tire being punctured 2% of the time and wrong about the cause of the flat 50%
of the time, I wonder if these same people can diagnose why they got a flat
penis. What I would really like to see is some hard facts on cycling and ED.
The part of this survey which really jumped out at me was that 26% of the
participants said they used aero handle bars. This is a system that moves your
body into a more aerodynamic position by moving your center of gravity forward
and down. This also has the effect of putting more weight on the perineal area.
These riders, while making up 26% of the study group, make up about 1/10 of 1%
of cyclists. This definitely suggests a risk area or a major flaw in the self
identification of the study group.
6. Biking will make me impotent. This is a charge that has circulated since the late 1990s, and there’s a kernel of truth to it. There is evidence that serious bike riders can experience temporary and even long-lasting erectile dysfunction if they log lots of hours on a racing seat that doesn’t fit properly. But there are now plenty of seats like this one with ergonomically designed cutaway grooves that take the pressure off the key arteries and nerves. And if you really want to play it safe, there are noseless saddles, too. As long as your saddle fits correctly and you don’t ride as much as somebody training for the Tour de France, biking is more apt to reduce your odds of erectile dysfunction than raise them, since the exercise will help keep cardiovascular disease—a major cause of erectile dysfunction—at bay.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-men/2008/5/15/6-myths-about-commuting-by-bicycle.html
But before you get caught up in the hysteria, it’s worth getting a second opinion.
Dr Andrew Garnham, race doctor for the Herald Sun Tour and doctor in charge of cycling events at the 2006 Commonwealth Games believes the issue has been exaggerated. According to Garnham, erectile dysfunction is most commonly associated with cardiovascular disease related to a lack of fitness.
“The number one way of correcting this is regular exercise. Anyone who cycles regularly is helping out their situation.”
Garnham says there is plenty of evidence to suggest that cyclists enjoy good sexual health and he is quick to debunk the myth that professional cyclists are advised to bank their sperm.
“There is a theory that raising the temperature of the testes in tight clothing can interfere with the potency of sperm. There is, however, no link between cycling and infertility,” said Garnham.
http://www.bv.com.au/join-us/30317/
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fossyant said:
I found that a particular saddle, a Wilderness Trail, had a negative effect on my sex life.